JSA....We'll take PSA's rejects!!!

[Duluth Eskimo]

I wouldn't believe a word he says, but I'm surprised he has time to comment in between defending all his crimes.

I do think it's funny if it's true. People get what they deserve when they choose to spend big money without having any idea what they are buying. It also would be quite a black eye for JSA if true. Either way we'll probably never get the truth unless someone snapped some cell phone video of the signing. I know one thing, doesn't affect me either way.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I know one thing, doesn't affect me either way.

Really? You quit collecting autographs?

[sbfinley]

Am I the only one who finds it a bit strange for PSA/DNA to be cool with hanging out in a hotel room to witness a collegiate athlete sign a mass quantity of memorabilia? Doesn't... I don't know.... Common Sense??.... Tell you someone's getting paid and this could end badly?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by sbfinley

Am I the only one who finds it a bit strange for PSA/DNA to be cool with hanging out in a hotel room to witness a collegiate athlete sign a mass quantity of memorabilia? Doesn't... I don't know.... Common Sense??.... Tell you someone's getting paid and this could end badly?

Steve, to some of us it is common sense, but we had a long discussion about this previously, and there are a few forum member who basically feel that JSA is in the autograph-authentication business, and once an autograph is put in front of them, they should take the money and do their job, not considering anything else.

To me it is poor ethics, but to others it is not - we could debate ethics and morality all day and get nowhere. It's right up there with religion and politics.

[tazdmb]

I see no problems with it, they are not there to be a judgement of moral character and be an enforcer for NCAA regulations, they are there to perform their job to ensure the autograph is authentic. I, for once, applaud them.

[sbfinley]

I'm just surprised people are okay with a TPA being a party in an action that could cost a kid his college eligibility when they're slammed on a daily basis for what they will and won't cert.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by tazdmb

I see no problems with it, they are not there to be a judgement of moral character and be an enforcer for NCAA regulations, they are there to perform their job to ensure the autograph is authentic. I, for once, applaud them.

Yes insure the autograph is authentic.
1000 autographs x 10 experts = 10,000 examinations. The original dealer was paid $30-40 per autograph so guestimate he paid $5-10 (?) per examination. Do the math, does this work out? I think not
In addition the player himself has now said he has seen autographs that were authenticated, on ebay, but not authentic.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Yes insure the autograph is authentic.
1000 autographs x 10 experts = 10,000 examinations. The original dealer was paid $30-40 per autograph so guestimate he paid $10 (?) per examination. Do the math, does this work out? I think not
In addition the player himself has now said he has seen autographs that were authenticated, on ebay, but not authentic.

So basically, JSA can ignore ethics and even ignore the process of authenticating the autograph...and still get paid.

I applaud them.

[Runscott]

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[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Yes insure the autograph is authentic.
1000 autographs x 10 experts = 10,000 examinations. The original dealer was paid $30-40 per autograph so guestimate he paid $5-10 (?) per examination. Do the math, does this work out? I think not
In addition the player himself has now said he has seen autographs that were authenticated, on ebay, but not authentic.

I am not following this, what I meant was I am glad PSA had the decency not to authenticate these items that they could not see in their presence, which they would do that more often.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by tazdmb

I am not following this, what I meant was I am glad PSA had the decency not to authenticate these items that they could not see in their presence, which they would do that more often.

The first sentence was sarcastic. The rest of it was pointing out the impossibility of trying to authenticate 1000 with 10 examiners in a relatively short period of time.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Really? You quit collecting autographs?

yes, I did...