JSA....We'll take PSA's rejects!!!

[Runscott]

You guys know that you aren't allowed to say anything bad about JSA; however, perhaps we can cut you some slack since you sort of posted something good about PSA.

I wonder what Jason thinks?

"Some people just like putting other people down , and then playing the martyr."

[jad22]

One would think that since there is greater scrutiny on TPAs, that they in turn would make better decisions.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jad22

One would think that since there is greater scrutiny on TPAs, that they in turn would make better decisions.

If you want them to make better decisions, quit paying them until they do.

[jad22]

Originally Posted by Runscott

If you want them to make better decisions, quit paying them until they do.

Business appears to be booming for all of them, so I guess that won't be happening soon.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jad22

Business appears to be booming for all of them, so I guess that won't be happening soon.

That's the entire problem. As long as they are making money, there is no incentive to change. But I like the fact that PSA rejected the Winston lot - by showing some integrity, they have separated themselves from JSA. I wonder if JSA knew that PSA had rejected them?

This thing about there being multiple signers is an entirely different matter. I don't see that it is anything new, and we've put up with it for years, so not sure why anyone would have any complaints now.

[Duluth Eskimo]

[QUOTE=Runscott;1345690]But I like the fact that PSA rejected the Winston lot - by showing some integrity, they have separated themselves from JSA.

Not sure how this shows integrity, it sounds more like they didn't get their way, took their football, and went home. They state themselves that they never saw the autographs. Now if they saw them and rejected them as some joke of a signature refusing to accept anymore, then making that comment, I may be inclined to agree.

[RichardSimon]

Hot off the presses, the story grows,,,, ( this story is online at http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sp...raphs-a/nh9fq/ )



Credit the Palm Beach Post:


Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston identified scores of items bearing his signature that were forgeries, sources told the Palm Beach Post.


Winston sat down with FSU compliance officials one month ago to look at the memorabilia being sold online bearing his signature after ESPN reported that thousands of authenticated items were for sale. He was able to point out several signatures that he said were forged and several items that had his signature that he knew he had not signed.


"When he looked at the initial website mentioned by ESPN, he looked at multiple things and said that wasn't his signature," said a source.


Winston viewed items such as jerseys, mini helmets, photos among others with his signature.


ESPN reported Tuesday that one authentication company is questioning the legitimacy of thousands of items being sold with Winston's signature.


The items in question were authenticated by James Spence Authentication. A competitor, PSA/DNA, did not authenticate those items after questioning if Winston ever signed them.


The report said a Florida memorabilia dealer was hoping to get Winston to sign a large amount of items last winter. Even after Winston refused, the dealer produced a batch of items with Winston's name signed to them. No witnesses to Winston signing the items has been found.


ESPN found more than 2,000 certified Winston autographs on JSA's website last month and raised the issue of whether Winston was paid for the signatures, which would be an NCAA violation.


Five days after ESPN's initial report, Florida State released a statement saying it had no information or evidence that Winston was paid. Since arriving at Florida State in 2012, Winston has autographed thousands of items. He has signed thousands at one sitting during fan days or while attending award ceremonies following his Heisman Trophy and national championship winning 2013 season. He also sometimes would sign hundreds a day while he was a member of the FSU baseball team.


Winston has said he tries to avoid signing multiple items for the same person and turns down requests from people who he believes to be dealers.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Runscott

You guys know that you aren't allowed to say anything bad about JSA; however, perhaps we can cut you some slack since you sort of posted something good about PSA.

I wonder what Jason thinks?

"Some people just like putting other people down , and then playing the martyr."

I'm glad you care how I feel Scott.

Bottom line is that none of us saw the autographs. Does it seem fishy? Of course it does. If I was a felon impersonating a football player I probably wouldn't want witnesses to my misdeeds either. I do however trust the opinion of Rich and Ron K so if they viewed examples and say there are issues I believe them. Luckily for me I'm not in the market for any felon impersonating a football player autographs for my collection. If I were I would do my own homework and not necessarily rely on any one opinion whether it was PSA, JSA, Ron, or Rich. Just to appease Scott, I could care less if someone does rely on one of those companies.