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Old 11-16-2014, 03:50 PM
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Damn you guys. This guy says he is new to the forum and just was asking questions. What is everyone ripping him for? I don't know him but no need to treat him like crap for his first question. No wonder people get pissed and leave on here. Wow
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:00 PM
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:35 PM
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That's because the only way some people can make themselves feel good is to put others down. I don't think the OP ever argued against the opinion that the signature is bad, he's just asking non advanced collector questions.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:50 PM
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Given the vast number of fake autos, I think everyone is just concerned when someone new to the forum shows a potentially high value auto and tells a grandfather story. The auto isn't really which makes people question the story.

As for the value of it now, I second the recommendation that you post on the memorabilia side. Older balls have some value, but it's not clear what effect the signature has on the value given it is not real. There is an off chance the ball was not a malicious forgery but is a secretarial that was given out as part of a promotion of some kind and it still has some value (I have no info/knowledge that would support this idea but just saying there are some unknowns). It's also possible that the signature could be removed. Again, no idea.

My recommendation is that you put it on your shelf and enjoy it and the memories it invokes.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:48 PM
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This guy says he is new to the forum and just was asking questions.
Here is a scenario I've seen played out a hundred times on various message boards... maybe it applies to this situation or maybe it doesn't...

A newbie shows up with a "it's been in my family forever" story and "what's it worth?" Meanwhile, to sharp-eyed collectors, the item appears to be a fake of recent vintage.

Why would someone do this? They want to get offline offers and ideally sell the item quickly and privately to another member who hopes to lowball the newbie. A con conning a con.

Maybe that is not the case here. Maybe some folks are too jaded and skeptical. Maybe this has been in his family for 60 years.

But it doesn't appear to be authentic or look like known Ruth period secretarials. So that leaves two possibilities: a forgery of this quality was produced a long time ago or the story is not true.
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Old 11-16-2014, 09:14 PM
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Here is a scenario I've seen played out a hundred times on various message boards... maybe it applies to this situation or maybe it doesn't...

A newbie shows up with a "it's been in my family forever" story and "what's it worth?" Meanwhile, to sharp-eyed collectors, the item appears to be a fake of recent vintage.

Why would someone do this? They want to get offline offers and ideally sell the item quickly and privately to another member who hopes to lowball the newbie. A con conning a con.

Maybe that is not the case here. Maybe some folks are too jaded and skeptical. Maybe this has been in his family for 60 years.

But it doesn't appear to be authentic or look like known Ruth period secretarials. So that leaves two possibilities: a forgery of this quality was produced a long time ago or the story is not true.
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