PSA at it again

[mark evans]

Just another example of the arbitrariness inherent in grading. I will never understand the wide disparities in value at the higher grades.

[freakhappy]

Definitely looks oc to me...I've seen some not this bad with the qualifier. But I think this just shows how inconsistent TPG can be and we shouldn't be surprised when examples like this show up.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by mark evans

Just another example of the arbitrariness inherent in grading. I will never understand the wide disparities in value at the higher grades.

Because for some people collecting is a competitive endeavor.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Because for some people collecting is a competitive endeavor.

collect what you enjoy...

[vthobby]

Leon,

Beautiful card! I would buy the 4 all day, every day and never look back. Nice centering also.

peace, mike

[KingFisk]

Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?

[Lgarza99]

I work for a label company and we abide by an industry standard of +/- 1/64" for size variation, and we supply nation brands with this tolerance. Some apply labels at 1000+ containers per minute so sizing is critical.

I'm sure we cut labels in the same manner as 50 years ago with a guillotine process. We even have programable machines. The +/- tolerance is needed for process variation. You should be good.

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by Lgarza99

I work for a label company and we abide by an industry standard of +/- 1/64" for size variation, and we supply nation brands with this tolerance. Some apply labels at 1000+ containers per minute so sizing is critical.

I'm sure we cut labels in the same manner as 50 years ago with a guillotine process. We even have programable machines. The +/- tolerance is needed for process variation. You should be good.

Interesting! Thank you for that unique insight, Luis.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by KingFisk

Just on the talk about the possible trimming....Whenever I buy an expensive card now I find myself hand-wringing and half convinced I have been ripped off if something seems a little amiss...is there any sort of standard tolerance PSA uses for mimimum size? I just got a PSA 8 65 Morgan that is nicely centered and otherwise sharp, but by my measurement about 1/64th of an inch shy of 2.5" top to bottom...then I notice the little imperfections in the slab...am I just being paranoid over this fractional length? Were vintage cards typically varying in size by these slight degrees?

If you can even measure something to 1/64 God bless you. There is a fair amount of variability on 65s in my experience building that set. 1/64 would not bother me.

[asoriano]

One of my favorites by PSA:

[KingFisk]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you can even measure something to 1/64 God bless you. There is a fair amount of variability on 65s in my experience building that set. 1/64 would not bother me.

My father in law bought me a tremendous tape measure with 64 notches! It is awesome and causes even greater paranoia in this neurotic guy.. Thanks, Peter!