Perhaps the most unethical thing I've seen in our hobby. Topps should be ashamed

[honus94566]

Anyone still buying new packs of baseball cards in 2014, all I can say is the joke's on them.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by honus94566

Anyone still buying new packs of baseball cards in 2014, all I can say is the joke's on them.

Depends on the motive. I have bought packs just for my kids to open. Because of the drop in prices after newer stuff comes out I was about to get 4 boxes of 2013 topps for $25 total a few months back. Then each day I gave them a couple of packs to open. They didn't open and look through them for monetary gain, and I didn't buy them for monetary gain. It was purely for the root of the hobby, to have fun and look through the pictures. My 4 year old daughter would come up with stories for the "boys" on the front of the cards, then she would match up pictures that looked the same ("boys with bats", "boys throwing ball", "funny looking boys"). My 2 year old just liked making nice stacks after looking through them and would carry them around. My 1 year old just had fun opening up and pulling them out and then throwing them after yelling "ball".

No joke on me, it was a joyful time.

[honus94566]

That is true - I've bought a few packs myself for my boys, 6 and 8. They have had fun with them. Cost me under $10.

What I mean is, anybody buying boxes and boxes of new cards searching for whatever chase card, autograph, or fragment of bat or jersey that might be found, that's who the joke is on.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by honus94566

That is true - I've bought a few packs myself for my boys, 6 and 8. They have had fun with them. Cost me under $10.

What I mean is, anybody buying boxes and boxes of new cards searching for whatever chase card, autograph, or fragment of bat or jersey that might be found, that's who the joke is on.

Yes, I agree on the point that if you are buying to play the "lottery" the joke is certainly on you, because you are unearthing 1000s of low to no value cards to get one card that typically just seems to allow you to break even after all the boxes were bought.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by honus94566

That is true - I've bought a few packs myself for my boys, 6 and 8. They have had fun with them. Cost me under $10.

What I mean is, anybody buying boxes and boxes of new cards searching for whatever chase card, autograph, or fragment of bat or jersey that might be found, that's who the joke is on.

Until you open up a box of baseball cards you spent $75 on, and find a 2014 Bowman Chrome Kris Bryant red refractor auto /5, and then sell it for $7,333.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Bowman-...item5411a7a5d0

[the 'stache]

Some people actually buy the product because they enjoy it. I'll buy a few boxes of 2014 Bowman Chrome for the fun of it. I don't expect to buy any of the big name autos. In the past, I would just buy the individual top prospects. I don't know if I'm still going to do that. I might buy some of them. It gets hard trying to keep up, especially when the majority of my discretionary cash to put towards the hobby is going to go for vintage and pre-war.

Steve, here's the 2013 card. Notice how Beckett is describing it on their flip. "2013 card released in 2014 Topps products".

The 2013 card, released in 2014 products starting in June 2014, has a 2013 copyright.

[EvilKing00]

Wow, seems becket knows its not right and covering them self, so as not to look bad, good for becket very bad for topps

[Rollingstone206]

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[steve B]

I was aware of the copyright on the card. I was wondering if they actually did a copyright a year ago, or if they're doing a bit of time machine playing around? And if they are can they get in trouble for it or invalidate the copyright?

Heck, UD got caught reprinting their own stuff once and outright faking their own product another time and basically got away with it.

I think Beckett is handling it properly, although I really can't see calling it a 2013 card in any way aside from appearance.
I'd hope that the reduction in price is a combination of his still not getting to the majors and there being more than the expected number of 2014 signed inserts. Sadly I expect that it's because some people actually think of it as a 2013 card and thus an earlier issue.
Since he hasn't made the majors yet, I'm not even seeing how it's even a "rookie card" by the usual definitions. If it is, then my Jeter signature rookies card should also be an official "rookie card" - Sold during his first year? check Part of a nationally issued set? check. Not an insert????? Yeah, that's been ignored for signed cards. Not part of a subset? check. Yeah, it really should be, but isn't. And neither should this new card or event the regular 2014 card.


Steve B

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Some people actually buy the product because they enjoy it. I'll buy a few boxes of 2014 Bowman Chrome for the fun of it. I don't expect to buy any of the big name autos. In the past, I would just buy the individual top prospects. I don't know if I'm still going to do that. I might buy some of them. It gets hard trying to keep up, especially when the majority of my discretionary cash to put towards the hobby is going to go for vintage and pre-war.

Steve, here's the 2013 card. Notice how Beckett is describing it on their flip. "2013 card released in 2014 Topps products".

The 2013 card, released in 2014 products starting in June 2014, has a 2013 copyright.