Goudey 1933 PSA 9s--Many ungraded out there?

[GregMitch34]

Goudey 1933 PSA 8s seem to be rising nicely in value lately. I'm not a collector but I have nabbed a couple in recent months. For whatever reason, there are very, very few mint 9s on the PSA pop report, but I wonder if anyone has a guess on whether there may be plenty out there that have not been graded or actually quite scarce--and the reason for that if true? I guess this would help anyone buying or selling 8s in the near future....thanks.

[philliesphan]

As a general premise, I'd assert that for most pre-war baseball cards (particularly ones with corners -- discs, rounded game cards, etc. don't count)
there are likely very few raw, unaltered examples out there that would grade at MINT 9 through either PSA or SGC. Many of us may know a handful of collections that may have some examples of virgin, high grade cards. But 80+ years later, with centering, corner touches, fading, etc. -- it is hard to imagine (m)any cards in the unaltered state existing in MINT condition.

Every now and then you hear about finds which are the anomalies that drive this hobby -- the 1914 CJ set, the Black Swamp find, etc. -- but in most of those cases, you have cards that were often untouched or handled for decades.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Goudey 1933 PSA 8s seem to be rising nicely in value lately. I'm not a collector but I have nabbed a couple in recent months. For whatever reason, there are very, very few mint 9s on the PSA pop report, but I wonder if anyone has a guess on whether there may be plenty out there that have not been graded or actually quite scarce--and the reason for that if true? I guess this would help anyone buying or selling 8s in the near future....thanks.

There are plenty more residing in PSA 5-6 holders, waiting to be trimmed. The 1933 Goudey population is filled with altered cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

There are plenty more residing in PSA 5-6 holders, waiting to be trimmed. The 1933 Goudey population is filled with altered cards.

Who would do such a thing? Nobody you know, I hope.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who would do such a thing? Nobody you know, I hope.

Do such a thing or buy such a thing? Maybe some people you know.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Moi? I only know the hobby's great guys.

[calvindog]

Well, you know me and it's true, I don't collect high grade 33 Goudeys anymore.