Kellogg's vs Topps

[laughlinfan]

Love those 1970 box panels! Great memories! I can still remember getting three (THREE!!!) cards in one box in 1970, and two of them were from my favorite team (Seaver and Agee)! Days didn't get much better than that for the 5 year old version of me!

Somewhere in the great mass, my mom and I kept lots of empty Kelloggs boxes, but I don't think we started doing that until 1972 or 1973. Will have to dig those out one of these days!

For some reason, as a kid in 1973, I thought we had heard that the "3-D machines" were broken, which is why the 1973 cards were 2-D. The changing vendor seems a more likely explanation.

Anybody know if the 1972 Kelloggs All Time greats were sold as a full set as well? I remember having to eat Kelloggs Danish Go Rounds to get those - I do remember those things had a LOT of sugar in them!

[David W]

Adam - Those box panels are very cool.

I've looked for years to see if Lou Brock was on one, I don't think he is.

I saw Gibson on the top one from 1970 though.

[Exhibitman]

I don't know of a Brock panel card but then I've never looked.

Danish Go Rounds, yum! Like a Pop Tart on steroids. I have a partial from that issue. The boxes are tough!

[laughlinfan]

Yes - that was probably before PED testing on toaster pastries! In my memory, they were big and very thick - I am wondering how they fit in a toaster! Had to have been like 4 to a box?

[LeftHandedDane]

I remember purchasing the Kellogg's all time greats as a complete set - I seem to recall having to send in some box tops and a small fee for it. And if memory serves, they came in a perforated sheet (or 2).

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by David W

Adam - Those box panels are very cool.

I've looked for years to see if Lou Brock was on one, I don't think he is.

I saw Gibson on the top one from 1970 though.

Dave, Brock is on the back of 1978 Kelloggs boxes. I'll try to post a pic later.

[cardinalcollector]

Brock is also on the 1977 boxes.

[Troy Kirk]

I love the Kellogg 3D cards and boxes. I collected them during the entire run.

I think the hobby is wrong on some of the mail-in information that has circulated for years. I think 1973 was the first year for the mail-in offer. I challenge anyone to show a box from 1970 or 1972 with a mail-in offer. For 1970 and 1972, I think the only reason they are more common than 1971 is that card dealers were able to get supplies of those two sets from Kelloggs and were not able to get them for 1971.

Also, if my memory is correct, I think in 1981 and 1982 you could only mail in for complete sets, I don't think the cards were in boxes those years. They were back in boxes for the last year of 1983.

[JollyElm]

Something that invariably needs to be brought up whenever Kellogg's cards are discussed is the inevitable cracking. What a downer it was when you grabbed your 3-D cards from years past and saw they all (or many) were starting to crack all over the place. Even though we loved those cards, that is definitely one of the reasons why they were considered of secondary importance, for lack of a better term, to my friends and me. We knew that eventually all our Kellogg's cards would curl up, dry out and be all crackly. I grew up in New York (where it's hot and humid in summer, cold and dry in winter), but I've always assumed this phenomenon happened everywhere. Am I wrong? Did other climates across the country treat these cards more humanely?

And on a side note, what happens when you get one of those suckers graded (say, a PSA 8) and over time it starts cracking inside the slab? This is a kind of 'Schrödinger's Cat' type of thought experiment. It has already been graded out as an 8 within its plastic home…but is it still truly an 8?? Weird.

[ALR-bishop]

I have a set of the 68 Topps 3Ds, and their 2011 effort. All are ungraded and so far no noticeable deterioration on my 68s. It would be areal bummer to have a bunch of the 68s go bad considering the original cost of acquiring them.

Any steps that can prevent or slow down the deterioration of 3d cards ?

At one time you could buy 3D disposable cameras. I took a bunch of family photos using them in the late 80s and 90s and they are all deteriorating now

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by David W

Adam - Those box panels are very cool.

I've looked for years to see if Lou Brock was on one, I don't think he is.

I saw Gibson on the top one from 1970 though.

For Dave: 1977 and 1978 Kelloggs Brocks.

[cardinalcollector]

On further review, that 1977 scan is Bake McBride. It was from a very small photo copy from Ebay. Randy

[David W]

Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

On further review, that 1977 scan is Bake McBride. It was from a very small photo copy from Ebay. Randy

I've never seen the box with Brock on it ever in years of ebay searches.

[JLange]

Just wondering if there is any collector value to the 3D card "pictures" that are displayed on the box as advertising. Has anyone seen them cut out and for sale, separate from the actual 3D cards?

The '79s in particular look way nicer than the actual 3D cards themselves.

[moeson]

1971 and 72 box cards recently went for $15 to $25 on Ebay.

[mrmopar]

There is always some sort of market for that kind of thing, albeit a small one in some cases. I suppose it depends on how unique and hard to find an item is and if it has been accepted as a collectible by the masses.

For my collection, I would take a full box, panel or a single card cut from the box and ideally all three for a complete run. I have a 1980 Garvey card cut from a box as well as a panel (no full box that I can remember), but I guess I didn't scan it, so I don't have a picture handy.

Originally Posted by JLange

Just wondering if there is any collector value to the 3D card "pictures" that are displayed on the box as advertising. Has anyone seen them cut out and for sale, separate from the actual 3D cards?

The '79s in particular look way nicer than the actual 3D cards themselves.

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by David W

I've never seen the box with Brock on it ever in years of ebay searches.

Hi Dave, the Brock box that I scanned for you is an un-assembled box with no expiration date on it. I can't remember where I got it. I suppose its possible that it was un-issued. I would think that you would have seen another after years of searching. Randy

[David W]

Originally Posted by cardinalcollector

Hi Dave, the Brock box that I scanned for you is an un-assembled box with no expiration date on it. I can't remember where I got it. I suppose its possible that it was un-issued. I would think that you would have seen another after years of searching. Randy

Someone was kind enough to find one for me on Ebay, I've seen it before, it has Reggie Jackson on the front, and is fairly common.

So I will add that to the collection soon.