That Cicotte CJ 14 at Love the Game: What's Up?

GregMitch34 · #1 10-20-2014, 10:12 AM

I just found it amusing that they re-submitted to SGC and just got a half-point bump...

Yeah, I should consign but I was very disappointed with what my top-graded Marquard just got at REA...

3-2-count · #2 10-20-2014, 10:25 AM

Greg, Sorry to hear your 14 Marquard didn't bring the $ that you were expecting. A card is worth what collectors are willing to pay. In the 14 Cicotte case it seems it has the attention of at least a couple players that are in the 14 CJ market.

We shall see where this one ends when it has it's day. Be well.......

vintagewhitesox · #3 10-20-2014, 11:21 AM

Wow, that's a pretty healthy price!
Wonder if these CJs will sustain popularity. Interesting to see them jump in the recent months.

Leon · #4 10-20-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34

I just found it amusing that they re-submitted to SGC and just got a half-point bump...

Yeah, I should consign but I was very disappointed with what my top-graded Marquard just got at REA...

It brought 5k after juice. That doesn't sound that bad to me.... Were you hoping for 10k?

GregMitch34 · #5 10-20-2014, 02:14 PM

Leon, 6-7000 anyway--REA itself did not give any estimate with the item, which was rare, signaling they didn't know what the ceiling was, either. That always gets your hopes up. The next highest PSA for the card was a 5, so you'd think the registry guys would love it. I know Marquard is not a key HOFer and that is one factor, but still. Also, as I noted here early on, and others agreed, the color printing of the REA catalog was very poor.

Leon · #6 10-20-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Leon, 6-7000 anyway--REA itself did not give any estimate with the item, which was rare, signaling they didn't know what the ceiling was, either. That always gets your hopes up. The next highest PSA for the card was a 5, so you'd think the registry guys would love it. I know Marquard is not a key HOFer and that is one factor, but still. Also, as I noted here early on, and others agreed, the color printing of the REA catalog was very poor.

The color printing in the catalog had 0 to do with final pricing, imo. I can't imagine a serious collector not looking at the scans online. BTW, I think the '14 prices have cooled somewhat very recently. We sold a few in our last auction and the prices were good but not quite what they have been lately. A lot of them have come out recently with the spike in prices, lowering the prices somewhat. ....I think your card got a pretty healthy price but it wasn't mine so I understand

.....Just my opinion.

calvindog · #7 10-20-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

The color printing in the catalog had 0 to do with final pricing, imo. I can't imagine a serious collector not looking at the scans online. BTW, I think the '14 prices have cooled somewhat very recently. We sold a few in our last auction and the prices were good but not quite what they have been lately. A lot of them have come out recently with the spike in prices, lowering the prices somewhat. ....I think your card got a pretty healthy price but it wasn't mine so I understand

.....Just my opinion.

Agreed. The idea that the paper catalog somehow depressed prices is a bit crazy. No one would bid on an item without seeing it online anyway -- you don't have a choice unless you're bidding by phone.

calvindog · #8 10-20-2014, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Leon, 6-7000 anyway--REA itself did not give any estimate with the item, which was rare, signaling they didn't know what the ceiling was, either. That always gets your hopes up. The next highest PSA for the card was a 5, so you'd think the registry guys would love it. I know Marquard is not a key HOFer and that is one factor, but still. Also, as I noted here early on, and others agreed, the color printing of the REA catalog was very poor.

Did Rob give you his own estimate of what he thought the card would hammer at?

Peter_Spaeth · #9 10-20-2014, 06:45 PM

Consigning a card always carries with it a certain degree of risk. Even in the best auctions, every card does not bring a record price or even do well.

bobbyw8469 · #10 10-20-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Consigning a card always carries with it a certain degree of risk. Even in the best auctions, every card does not bring a record price or even do well.

+1....well said.

Econteachert205 · #11 10-20-2014, 07:25 PM

As an outsider to the cj world, I look at the cicotte and Marquard and I find the artistry of the cicotte much more attractive. Also, despite Marquard being in the Hof (bah) to me cicotte is the much more collectible player.

Jaybird · #12 10-21-2014, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GregMitch34

I just found it amusing that they re-submitted to SGC and just got a half-point bump...

Yeah, I should consign but I was very disappointed with what my top-graded Marquard just got at REA...

Pretty much no other way to interpret this than you weren't happy with the price the Marquard brought. I don't see how this is debatable. You weren't happy and yet they told you exactly what it would bring. C'mon.

ullmandds · #13 10-21-2014, 05:35 PM

I'm guessing you didn't lose money on your marquard, greg? we all knowing buying aand selling bb cards can be like rolling the dice...you win some you lose some...like life. You CAN'T win them all...noone does!

You play this game enough you will have some big scores...and some grave disappointments. I don't think you did so bad!

ValKehl · #14 10-22-2014, 09:27 PM

I don't collect CJs, and almost no sets for that matter; so, I don't have any opinion as to what the Marquard sold for.

But, I am totally impressed with the email Brian sent Greg. It is, by far, the best, most thorough, and most professional communication of this sort from an auction house and/or dealer that I have ever seen!
Val

4815162342 · #15 10-22-2014, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ValKehl

I don't collect CJs, and almost no sets for that matter; so, I don't have any opinion as to what the Marquard sold for.

But, I am totally impressed with the email Brian sent Greg. It is, by far, the best, most thorough, and most professional communication of this sort from an auction house and/or dealer that I have ever seen!

Val

+1

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