REA winners and losers

[lug-nut]

I'm a winner!

was it just me or did several cards go for less than usual?

I won two cards I expected to lose, i'm happy my bids held

[e107collector]

Thoughts on the Ruth rookie - Lot #1?

I felt the card would've gone close to $100K, based on prior sales of similar graded Ruth rookies recently.

I know the card had a blank back, print line, and was off center, but do board members think that the recent Ruth craze the last 2 years might be cooling off? Thoughts?

Tony

[ullmandds]

Personally I think the ruth rookie went for the right amount. IT seems latley there has been a ruth rookie in almost every major auction...this is not a super rare card...and apparently there are only so many people willing to spend high 5 figures on this card.

I see more of a stabilization of early ruth cards...esp the more common ones...but I still think the tougher ones...as well as the high grade will continue to sell for big money.

[gnaz01]

I won this

[prewarsports]

Cameo Pepsin Sockalexis........

My wife is going to flip out but its been a Holy Grail for several years!

Rhys

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

Cameo Pepsin Sockalexis........

My wife is going to flip out but its been a Holy Grail for several years!

Rhys

Congrats Rhys, always good to knock off that top card(pin) and that's a nice, tough one.

I didn't win anything, but my dad got the T206 three card lot with the Lundgren Chi/EPDG. That card will be for sale here soon

[Bicem]

Congrats Rhys, huge pickup.

Love that Red Sox piece Greg!

[kkkkandp]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

Cameo Pepsin Sockalexis........

My wife is going to flip out but its been a Holy Grail for several years.

Excellent pickup!

You know, of course, that your wife won't flip out if you buy her something now!

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

I won this

Oh man, that is sweet!!!

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Oh man, that is sweet!!!

Thanks Scott, not the best condition but don't see it come up for sale very often.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Personally I think the ruth rookie went for the right amount. IT seems latley there has been a ruth rookie in almost every major auction...this is not a super rare card...and apparently there are only so many people willing to spend high 5 figures on this card.

I see more of a stabilization of early ruth cards...esp the more common ones...but I still think the tougher ones...as well as the high grade will continue to sell for big money.

+1. My guess would be that there might be 200 or so of these cards with all of the various backs around. It is tough enough, but they do come up with a pretty fair amount of regularity. I agree it was time for it to level off a bit--it certainly is THE CARD to have, but is just as certainly not ultra rare.

I lost out on the 1946-47 Propaganda Montiel Musial, going as high as $960 (including buyer's premium), which was as high as I wanted to go. Didn't really like the eye appeal, despite its being the highest graded. Was stunned to see it go for just over $2K with premium!

Highest regards,

Larry

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

I lost out on the 1946-47 Propaganda Montiel Musial, going as high as $960 (including buyer's premium), which was as high as I wanted to go. Didn't really like the eye appeal, despite its being the highest graded. Was stunned to see it go for just over $2K with premium!

Highest regards,

Larry

Larry - I couldn't believe it either. I was watching that lot closely. You'll be happy to know that there will be another for sale shortly (PWCC) w/ nice eye-appeal and graded just a notch lower. Yes, shameless plug, but I've gotta pay for my addiction somehow, right?

Here's my one win from Saturday night's REA auction:

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

I lost out on the 1946-47 Propaganda Montiel Musial, going as high as $960 (including buyer's premium), which was as high as I wanted to go. Didn't really like the eye appeal, despite its being the highest graded. Was stunned to see it go for just over $2K with premium!

Highest regards,

Larry

Yeah, that was mine. It's surprising if you compare it to the other Montiel Musial sales but not as much if you look at other "1 of 1 highest graded" cards. And it's an amazing bargain if you compare it to the prices of the highest graded rookie cards of the other top hitters -- Ruth, Cobb, Williams, Wagner, Mays, Aaron, Gehrig, Hornsby, Speaker, Mantle. Those generally go for something on the order of $100,000. They also tend to be nice and minty, but it's not Stan's fault all his rookie cards were stored in Cuba for 50 years.

The eye appeal wasn't anything special I'll admit, but I think it matched the technical grade. Most of the Musial rookies just look poor.

[Bicem]

Those Tomlinsons in the auction were awesome, nice pickup.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Bicem

Those Tomlinsons in the auction were awesome, nice pickup.

+1

If anyone has a Big Sam Thompson from this set and wants to make a new friend, you know where to find me!!

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Thoughts on the Ruth rookie - Lot #1?

I felt the card would've gone close to $100K, based on prior sales of similar graded Ruth rookies recently.

I know the card had a blank back, print line, and was off center, but do board members think that the recent Ruth craze the last 2 years might be cooling off? Thoughts?

Tony

If you had wagered that the Ruth Rookie graded 70 would fetch a higher price than the 1932 President McKinley non-sport graded 60 (lot #15), you lose!

[Peter_Spaeth]

The McKinley consignor did well to renege on the $9.99 ebay auction, it seems.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The McKinley consignor did well to renege on the $9.99 ebay auction, it seems.

80K

[Vintageclout]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Thoughts on the Ruth rookie - Lot #1?

I felt the card would've gone close to $100K, based on prior sales of similar graded Ruth rookies recently.

I know the card had a blank back, print line, and was off center, but do board members think that the recent Ruth craze the last 2 years might be cooling off? Thoughts?

Tony

Tony,

Slightly lower than I thought but not overall shocking. I figured in the $90K range. Keep in mind there are 3 high-end cards in the hobby that realize incredible pricing disparities based on their centering...the Ruth Rookie, 51 Bowman Mantle and 52 Topps Mantle. I've seen up to 40% shortfalls on pricing points for these 3 cards due to an off-centering issue.

Joe T.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by Vintageclout

Tony,

Slightly lower than I thought but not overall shocking. I figured in the $90K range. Keep in mind there are 3 high-end cards in the hobby that realize incredible pricing disparities based on their centering...the Ruth Rookie, 51 Bowman Mantle and 52 Topps Mantle. I've seen up to 40% shortfalls on pricing points for these 3 cards due to an off-centering issue.

Joe T.

Joe is spot-on here. I believe a dead-centered SGC 5.5-- the same grade as the REA offering-- just sold for $140,000.

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by lug-nut

I'm a winner!

was it just me or did several cards go for less than usual?

I won two cards I expected to lose, i'm happy my bids held

In my opinion several cards went way lower than expected. I have auctioned 2 cards (1 in each fall REA Auction) in the REA Fall Auctions, and have done poorly as a consignor. (Lost several hundred per card) Conversely, I am sure if you are a buyer, you are very happy. For me, I believe REA Spring Auction is a Seller's auction (Great prices realized) and the Fall Auction is a Buyer's Auction. At least for the first 2 Fall auctions... I am sure certain items did exceptionally well as there is always ancillary items that sell for top dollar, but I just didn't do well as a seller in this auction. A bit surprised.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

In my opinion several cards went way lower than expected. I have auctioned 2 cards (1 in each fall REA Auction) in the REA Fall Auctions, and have done poorly as a consignor. (Lost several hundred per card) Conversely, I am sure if you are a buyer, you are very happy. For me, I believe REA Spring Auction is a Seller's auction (Great prices realized) and the Fall Auction is a Buyer's Auction. At least for the first 2 Fall auctions... I am sure certain items did exceptionally well as there is always ancillary items that sell for top dollar, but I just didn't do well as a seller in this auction. A bit surprised.

If you have only lost several hundred per card, you are actually doing good. Other consignors (myself included) have actually lost quite a bit more than that. My best advice is collect what you love, and just when you think you picked up something cheap, there is always someone picking it up cheaper just around the corner. I equate buying and selling cards much like the stock market.

[iwantitiwinit]

Exactly. It was a tough week for the market and a tough week for consignors. Is the greater fool theory finally playing out. We might just have hit the limit, people only willing to pay so much for unusual but not truly rare items.

[sb1]

It depends entirely upon the item consigned. Rarities and ultra scarce/high grade pre-war may do well in REA, but more common material or even lower to mid dollar value items will often do better in smaller auctions where they are more highlighted and not overshadowed by the multiple five figure lots.

[1880nonsports]

that greeted this morning. An important album to finalize my sports album run and soon to be on the wall with the others - the Goodwin round album. Some minor flaws but hammered with penalty within a retail range I suppose - obligatory rationalization. I had wanted to position myself to be high bidder at 6000. but the random bidding waylaid my plan. Took the next bid perhaps a bit impulsively with night approaching as my emotional side gained control over the rational side. When falling asleep part of me wished I'd wake up to see I'd been outbid in the wee hours of the morning while the other was laying out the best configuration. Quite a bit of cheese for a retiree of modest means but the deed is done except to get it framed.

I thought one of the significant lots was the Burdick signed 1953 ACC. Coming down for a strong 3300.. Would LOVE to own something like that as the auto is on something significantly related to his contributions to our hobby. Cartophillic history while less important to me than the items themselves is still a part of and important to the gathering and synthesis of my collection. Surprised there isn't more signed stuff available (I never see any) as he communicated quite a bit by mail - phone calls were expensive. Even so they likely wouldn't have the POP of an item like an ACC. In any event - a 75.00 book and a primarily Burdick driven pair of autographs for 3200.00 - a level of Ruthian proportions. Given that price I wonder what Burdick's own copy of the 1939 ACC might sell for? Likely it wouldn't be signed - perhaps stamped with one of his 4/5 different initials - I would assume over 5000.. Have to believe it wasn't thrown out - perhaps it's already been in some auction?

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

In my opinion several cards went way lower than expected. I have auctioned 2 cards (1 in each fall REA Auction) in the REA Fall Auctions, and have done poorly as a consignor. (Lost several hundred per card) Conversely, I am sure if you are a buyer, you are very happy. For me, I believe REA Spring Auction is a Seller's auction (Great prices realized) and the Fall Auction is a Buyer's Auction. At least for the first 2 Fall auctions... I am sure certain items did exceptionally well as there is always ancillary items that sell for top dollar, but I just didn't do well as a seller in this auction. A bit surprised.

Aaaaand, on the other hand...I was bidding on exactly 20 lots and came away empty. Every single one went above the going auction prices over the last couple years. This is the first REA auction in 5 years or more where I have not won at least 2 lots. From where I was sitting, prices were high!

Cheers,
Blair