“the Wagner” of postcards

[packs]

Well I think what he's saying is that the Wagner is a rarity because it was a scarcely manufactured card in a larger set that for the most part was manufactured in relatively equal numbers.

So for a true "Wagner" a postcard would need to be a set rarity if we're saying apples to apples.

[Bicem]

ah gotcha, jeez so literal.

[LincolnVT]

I guess this is one of my favorite cards...and yes, I voted for it.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Bicem

ah gotcha, jeez so literal.

Well, the way I see it, if you ask for an answer and it doesn't exist, then you're going to get something else. When you say "The Wagner" of something, you're talking about the most iconic, of course, and I think everyone here would agree there is no one iconic PC a la the Wagner in cards. So what, then, are people voting for and putting forth candidates for? The rarest, coolest, favorite, etc, postcard? I honestly don't know, and that's what I was wondering about. But, as I said before, don't stop the fun!

[Hankphenom]

One last thing, and I hope this explains what I'm trying to say. When I looked at the list, and thought about voting, I was confused about what I would be voting for. I suspect most people are voting for their favorite among the group, and that's entirely different from choosing "a Wagner." That's all.

[Bicem]

Well my intent was to find out IF there was a particular postcard that a majority (or at least a lot) of the general collecting public (represented by net54 members) sees as the most iconic, similar to that of the t206 Wagner in the normal card world, even if not to that same extent.

I didn't want to assume that there was no postcard that stood out as being the most iconic without at least asking the question. That was the original point of the thread, and not really to find out people's personal favorites or coolest or most valuable, etc, although I enjoy hearing those results too.

[Hankphenom]

I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..." Whatever people are responding to, though, keep the great postcards coming!

[T206Jim]

I don't know that there is one definitive postcard, although as a group the Rose Company postcards may be the most iconic.

Is there a definitive book or guide to baseball postcards?

[chipperhank44]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..."

If there were multiple past threads debating the most iconic postcard that all ended with no clear censensus, your point might be well taken. However, I'm not aware of the conversation ever taking place, so you can't really say "If you have to ask..." about something that hasn't really been asked.

Note: If there are in fact many other threads debating this that I am unaware of, please move on to the next post.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

I'm really not trying to be contentious here, but this would seem to fall into the category of "If you have to ask..."

Ha, true, but then again makes for good discussion none the less. Can only take so many t206 threads.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by packs

Well I think what he's saying is that the Wagner is a rarity because it was a scarcely manufactured card in a larger set that for the most part was manufactured in relatively equal numbers.

So for a true "Wagner" a postcard would need to be a set rarity if we're saying apples to apples.

If this is the criteria...then this be the Honus Wagner of postcard collecting!

[Exhibitman]

One of more interesting aspects of PC collecting to me is that they were so prevalent in documenting the amateur, semi-pro, Negro League, and minor league parts of baseball, and so much else in American culture and sport. The images can be quite compelling:

[h2oya311]

I agree with others that one of the Cobb PCs would be the logical choice for the most "iconic" postcard. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one that every postcard collector simply "must have". I love postcards, and I especially love postcards depicting minor league players before they became HOF icons. Here are a few of mine, but I wouldn't consider any of these the "holy grail" of PC collecting (although I am mighty fond of the Campy):

> 1909 Dave Bancroft w/ Superior
> 1943 Roy Campanella w/ Monterrey
> 1943 Ray Dandridge w/ Veracruz
> 1914 Spokane Team w/ George Kelly & Stan Coveleski
> 1908 Little Rock Travelers Team w/ Tris Speaker
> 1909 KC Red Sox Team w/ Casey Stengel
> 1937 San Diego Padres Team w/ Ted Williams
> 1922 Martinsburg Blue Sox Team w/ Hack Wilson
> 1907 St. Mary's College w/ Harry Hooper and Hal Chase





I also like these two:

> 1915 Denison Railroaders Team w/ Rogers Hornsby
> c1905 Ty Cobb w/ George Parquette (guess which one is Cobb)



I also have minor league team PC's of B. McKechnie, S. Coveleski, G. Weiss, and D. Vance, among others. But the most iconic of them all you ask? Well obvioulsy, it's got to be the c1940 RPPC of the future president of the National League and HOF executive, Warren Giles:

[h2oya311]

excluding 1920's-40's negro league postcards and the 1907 Team PC w/ Joe Jackson, the two that I would like most to add to my collection are the following:

[baseballart]

I love any and all postcard threads. Now if someone had a rppc of Ten Million by himself, that would be something.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

I agree with others that one of the Cobb PCs would be the logical choice for the most "iconic" postcard. Unfortunately, I don't think there is one that every postcard collector simply "must have". I love postcards, and I especially love postcards depicting minor league players before they became HOF icons. Here are a few of mine, but I wouldn't consider any of these the "holy grail" of PC collecting (although I am mighty fond of the Campy):

> 1909 Dave Bancroft w/ Superior
> 1943 Roy Campanella w/ Monterrey
> 1943 Ray Dandridge w/ Veracruz
> 1914 Spokane Team w/ George Kelly & Stan Coveleski
> 1908 Little Rock Travelers Team w/ Tris Speaker
> 1909 KC Red Sox Team w/ Casey Stengel
> 1937 San Diego Padres Team w/ Ted Williams
> 1922 Martinsburg Blue Sox Team w/ Hack Wilson
> 1907 St. Mary's College w/ Harry Hooper and Hal Chase

That Campanella PC is spectacular.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by calvindog

That Campanella PC is spectacular.

Thanks Jeff - that means a lot coming from you and your incredible collection!