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Old 10-14-2014, 08:28 AM
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Old 10-14-2014, 09:14 PM
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Dave, thanks again for your valued input.

(Sorry I had cropped my Dubuque photo)

The baseball team Cabinet photograph is stamped "DUBUQUE"---"H.A. Jordan" "Artist"

#1) Fact: This establishes without question the location of the photo being Dubuque.

#2) H.A. Jordan -(Artist)-Dubuque Photographer (date range) Per research by the Center for Dubuque History. Loras College, Dubuque,Iowa

Quote: Director/Locas College, Dubuque Iowa: ---" Indeed the first listing of H.A. Jordan Photographer, appears for the first time in the 1881 Dubuque City Directory. We find his name in the city Directories up to and including 1890 when he disappears from the listings."
( Most business requires some start-up time, so its feasible the Jordan's Studio opened earlier?)

I might point out a five cent cigar would be expensive for most children.

The uniform question: I can only point out it appears Mr. Jordan high-lighted a "Star" on Reis's baseball hat. This to me is significant.

I still believe to have a very good case!--Thanks again!

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Old 10-14-2014, 09:32 PM
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The uniform question: I can only point out it appears Mr. Jordan high-lighted a "Star" on Reis's baseball hat. This to me is significant.
But, Reis is not in your photo. And again, why should anyone find your IDs credible given that you weren't able to distinguish the obvious facial difference between William G. Gleason who played for Dubuque and then the Browns in the 1880s and William J. "Kid" Gleason who did not. I guess that's what they call research in Missouri.

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Old 10-14-2014, 09:46 PM
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Dave, thanks again for your valued input.

(Sorry I had cropped my Dubuque photo)

The baseball team Cabinet photograph is stamped "DUBUQUE"---"H.A. Jordan" "Artist"

#1) Fact: This establishes without question the location of the photo being Dubuque.

#2) H.A. Jordan -(Artist)-Dubuque Photographer (date range) Per research by the Center for Dubuque History. Loras College, Dubuque,Iowa

Quote: Director/Locas College, Dubuque Iowa: ---" Indeed the first listing of H.A. Jordan Photographer, appears for the first time in the 1881 Dubuque City Directory. We find his name in the city Directories up to and including 1890 when he disappears from the listings."
( Most business requires some start-up time, so its feasible the Jordan's Studio opened earlier?)

I also believe during 1882 Comiskey played baseball between both Dubuque & Chicago.

The uniform question: I can only point out it appears Mr. Jordan high-lighted a "Star" on Reis's baseball hat. This to me is significant.

I still believe to have a very good case!--Thanks again!
Finally!!
You answered a question Directly and to the point without any extra nonsense.
So now, I think we can feel pretty confident about the Dubuque location.

The next question is what proof do you have that the players are all on the same team. I count at least 6 different uniforms.
Uniform 1 - Front row left end.
Uniform 2 - Front row second from left. (Different shirt and belt style)
Uniform 3 - Back left and back 3rd from left. (Same star on chest)
Uniform 4 - Back 2nd from left (Different buttons and no star on uniform)
Uniform 5 - Front right end.
Uniform 6 - Front second from right (Notice belt is different from guy on end)
I can't make out the 2 players in the back row on the right well enough to say for sure if their uniforms match anyone else.

It seems to be highly unlikely that they would pose for a team photo in that many different uniforms, especially since the other composite shows that the team had really nice uniforms with name "Dubuque" displayed boldly across the chest plate. So why would they take a team photo with so many different uniforms? I don't believe they would. It follows that if they are not all on the same team, then it can't be a team photo of the Dubuque Rabbits. If it isn't the Rabbits then why would Comiskey be in this photo? Obviously, he would have no reason to.

Also, please stop identifying players by names they clearly aren't. In post 97 of this thread Mark showed pictures of the real Reis in comparison for the guy you're calling Reis. None of the facial features come anywhere close. The ears, nose, jaw line, lips, and overall head shape don't match even remotely.
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Thanks to the Net 54 forums opinions and recommendations is why I revised my photo to highlight only one baseball player, Comiskey.

Comiskey being the main common denominator within those four years (1878-1881).

Comiskey teamed up with many different baseball players and teams in those four years.

In 1878 Comiskey joined a dozen amateurs and pros to try to make the Ted Sullivan team, players as Bill O'Rourke, Tom Burns, Frank Byrne, Will Phelan and Tom Cooney, Jeff Dolan, Spike Brady, and Farrell

Some other team mates named in those years --John Troy, Charles Eden, John O'connor and E.C. Kent.

***Another example the 1880 Dubuque "Easterns" Comiskey played 1st base for the "Easterns" against the "Westerns" baseball team comprised of a "mixture of professional & amateur athletes".***

In 1881 the team roster Comiskey was the player manager along with Sullivan, Phelan, Lear, Brown and Loftus, Ross, Burns and
Morrison.

I believe the Comiskey image in the 1887 Dubuque is the same player as in my 1878-1881 Dubuque photograph.

Time will only tell, be it twenty years from now--thanks again!

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Thanks to the Net 54 forums opinions and recommendations is why I revised my photo to highlight only one baseball player, Comiskey.
So, did you send corrections to The Comiskey family, HoF, SABR, Charlie Sheen, The Smithsonian, The Dubuque Telegraph-Herald and Sports Collectors Digest?

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So, did you send corrections to The Comiskey family, HoF, SABR, Charlie Sheen, The Smithsonian, The Dubuque Telegraph-Herald and Sports Collectors Digest?
yes, I will----but will pass on Charlie Sheen--

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