Hughie Jennings, Ty Cobb autographs; help needed!

[yanks12025]

There have been other Ty cobb signed bats and those autos look like his normally signed flats/baseball autos.

[Econteachert205]

At this point there is agreement on the Jennings being def good and the rest being absolutely period. The rest do not appear to have been done in the same hand, so that likely takes out the notion of it being a clubhouse/ old forgery. That would likely speak well for the bush and stanage. The cobb has elements that people like and others that are questionable. But it is early cobb and so there are likely still variations in the signature. I would say a likely possibility after looking more would be that minus the cobb the bat is good, and that the cobb is a toss up, maybe some better cobb experts can weigh in but I tried to look over variations and couldn't find an exact measurement with the t and c done in that manner.

[yanks12025]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

At this point there is agreement on the Jennings being def good and the rest being absolutely period. The rest do not appear to have been done in the same hand, so that likely takes out the notion of it being a clubhouse/ old forgery. That would likely speak well for the bush and stanage. The cobb has elements that people like and others that are questionable. But it is early cobb and so there are likely still variations in the signature. I would say a likely possibility after looking more would be that minus the cobb the bat is good, and that the cobb is a toss up, maybe some better cobb experts can weigh in but I tried to look over variations and couldn't find an exact measurement with the t and c done in that manner.

Where is there a agreement that the Jennings is good???

[Econteachert205]

I guess I misspoke about the Jennings, I was assuming there was agreement that the original ok given by spence was correct

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Where is there a agreement that the Jennings is good???

The Jennings looks good to me.

Another possibility is that all the autographs are good except Cobb, and that Cobb was added as a 'clubhouse' (I hate that term) because he was the most famous player on the team, and 'needed' to be on the bat. The clubhouse signatures I've seen from the '40s-'60s are so bad that if this is a clubhouse, being much earlier than '40s-'60s, it's a damned good one (I would expect it to be equally horrible as compared to more modern ones). Keeping in mind that forgeries are normally a lot better than clubhouse.

Just thinking out loud. I would love to see this item be totally authentic, which probably colors my thinking.

[Econteachert205]

Originally Posted by Runscott

The Jennings looks good to me.

Another possibility is that all the autographs are good except Cobb, and that Cobb was added as a 'clubhouse' (I hate that term) because he was the most famous player on the team, and 'needed' to be on the bat. The clubhouse signatures I've seen from the '40s-'60s are so bad that if this is a clubhouse, being much earlier than '40s-'60s, it's a damned good one (I would expect it to be equally horrible as compared to more modern ones). Keeping in mind that forgeries are normally a lot better than clubhouse.

Just thinking out loud. I would love to see this item be totally authentic, which probably colors my thinking.

Scott I am thinking this is the most likely scenario as well, but I am not a cobb sig expert on the early sigs so I'm holding out hope.

[Bpm0014]

Although Spence says that the Jennings is authentic, I think there are still a couple of people on the fence with it. But yes, I will try to get a better pic of the Stanage. It's a tad bit faded, but looks comparable to the other 2 Stanages that I have. Same with the Donie Bush. And although I would love for all of these to be authentic, I simply would like a definitive answer either way (if that's possible). Thanks again for all of your continued input; I would still love to hear from some others as well.

Brendan

[Bpm0014]

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