SGC & Hand Cut

[brian1961]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

The problem with that, Brian, is that SGC does not indicate "hand-cut" on Post cereal cards or Bazookas either (or Hostess). I do not know if they are changing their policy or because this issue is so scarce they felt a need for the designation. Frankly I'm not convinced they are hand-cut from the scans I have seen of these and others, although I've never held one in hand.

Todd, I was not aware of SGC's policy. You are absolutely right, and I'm surprised I never noticed this omission. I have a couple SGC-graded Post Cereals, one graded in the late 90's and one from about 2009, and having just come back from looking at them, there is indeed no mention of their being hand-cut. I guess my eyes were always glued to the card and their grade when viewing them. Were it not for the fact that it is so well known that Post Cereals are hand cuts, I would feel cheated a bit. Regardless, thank you for correcting me on this. Perhaps SGC is changing their policy on divulging the hand cut nature of an issue; however, I shan't re-holder my cards just for that mention.

As for the Baltimore Oriole regional that started the discussion, I obviously would have no idea one way or the other.

Thanks again, Todd. ----Brian Powell

[nolemmings]

"Were it not for the fact that it is so well known that Post Cereals are hand cuts, I would feel cheated a bit."

I agree. I also agree with Leon that all hand-cut cards should indicate that, even if it is obvious or well-known. A numeric grade can still be assigned, IMO, but then the buyer/owner knows or should know that the card may have been cut recently or at the time of issue (or anywhere in between). More information is better, I say.

[bigfish]

Tom, I agree with Leon and think Sgc got it right. A 96 is kind of a nice grade. Also, did you contact Sgc with the concerns you posted on the main forum?? I think they would have been happy to answer questions.

[TATSR]

Originally Posted by bigfish

Tom, I agree with Leon and think Sgc got it right. A 96 is kind of a nice grade. Also, did you contact Sgc with the concerns you posted on the main forum?? I think they would have been happy to answer questions.

If they were being consistent, I would agree. I would also be in favor of all hand cut cards being labeled as such. But should the "hand cut" designation be reserved for cards that were intended to be cut (like strip cards or box-based cards)? I don't think anyone knows how these were created or how they were distributed.

I didn't contact them first because I received the cards today and wanted to see if anyone had ever seen any SGC card with "hand cut" on the label.

And if this is a new policy, I wish they had started with the next submission

SGC also labels some 1952 Topps Mays and Mantle's as 'Rookie' while leaving it off other flips. I'm not sure if this is done by request or just a shift of thinking through the years, but in any case there's a lack of consistency there as well.