T205 Pied 42's gaining ground while others lose

[RGold]

Thanks, it's a little short but my understanding is that they ran smaller from that factory. No?

Or whatever is going on at the top of the reverse could be the problem. Never could get an answer from GAI.

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by RGold

Thanks, it's a little short but my understanding is that they ran smaller from that factory. No?

Or whatever is going on at the top of the reverse could be the problem. Never could get an answer from GAI.

I have never heard of any cards other than AB's being cut different. As far as the call GAI made I would say it is accurate.

[Republicaninmass]

Andrew, your AB's aren't thinner, like the t206's?

[Centauri]

One way to judge availability is to see what is up for sale on eBay. I started looking closely at t205 in January. Most backs are easy to find, American Beauty commands a premium of about 2x, but a dozen or so can be found for sale at any time. Piedmont 42 can be found. I had not heard of Hassan 30 prior to this post, so I can't speak to that. I do not see much premium for Cycle.

I have seen 3 Broadleafs on eBay. 2 are currently for sale - and both asking for about a 10x-15X multiplier. I saw 1 Drum that was up for a couple months, asking $1300 for a PSA 1 common. I have never seen a Hindu on eBay.

All of the above is my experience, FWIW.

[dog*dirt]

I think that once you start to look at T205s day after day and year after year you may notice that some front/back combinations are quite common while some are quite tough.

The data shown by Josh is really good imo as a general rule of scarcity.

Here are a few of my favorite cards from the last year or so.

[asoriano]

Never get tired of seeing that Bransfield.

[Econteachert205]

Great cards Andrew, love the brans field and bresnahan!

[dog*dirt]

Thanks guys. How about how the Matty Cycle (yes I know its a variation) selling for crazy money and they come up for sale frequently.Trying to find an AB Matty was and is much more difficult.

[familytoad]

Originally Posted by RGold

Thanks, it's a little short but my understanding is that they ran smaller from that factory. No?

Or whatever is going on at the top of the reverse could be the problem. Never could get an answer from GAI.

RGold, you have to be patient, they don't open until Monday

Other random thoughts:

• I agree about Pied42, tough but not interesting to me.
• Hassan 30 I hadn't thought about. I might have a couple but don't really care.
• I like the Cycle backs just for the coolness of the graphic.
• I like AB greens for that same aesthetic reason.
• Even though I am trying to do a master set, I might not ever get a Hobby No Stats or Wilhelm Suffered, but it's okay with me to just come close on this set.
• (The variations are so minor that I'll have some difficulty justifying those big purchases)
• I am typically a lower grade collector but found myself actually upgrading this set...damn they look nice with unchipped borders and bright colors. I feel a little shame since I usually squawk about chasing high grade cards that are 100 years old...
• I counted mine, I just hit 300 so conceivably am I half way towards set 2?
  
• T205 and Diet Peach Snapple!

[mybuddyinc]

"Piedmont 42 seems to be scarce but I still think that might be a bit of a function of people not always realizing they have one."

Probably true. Here's nothing new, and may be an insult to those who have read or responded to this thread. However, for those who are new to the issue (like me), and want to do a quick check of their Pied.'s without getting out the magnifying loop, here's a good "arm's length"* look at factory difference:

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* depending on your eye-sight

[nebboy]

When I first saw this thread I had already put in a opening bid on a ped42 Hooks Wiltse, that was listed on E-bay from a seller that has a lot of t205s but did not mention what back anywhere in auction. The card is a strong raw VG listed for $29.99 start bid. I was the only bidder. So in this case there was no premium paided for tuff-ish back. I wanted to see how hard people were looking for Pied42s before posting.

I have 15 other all different Pied42s in graded or raw 3 range none of which I paid none or no more than a buck or two bump to get.

As for other backs - other than BL, Drum, Hindu, all can be found without paying extra but it take time to find a good deal or one that is flying under the radar.

The really tuff thing to do is, when you do enough home work to find out which front that have common backs that are anything but common. They are the ones that I love finding in any condition for no premium. Its getting harder to do as more people like myself finally work out this information and adjust their new buys to this kind pursuit.

[T205 GB]

I can agree that when you look hard enough you will find deals all over the place. When these Pied 42's are advertised though the prices do get steep. The SGC 1.5 tinker Pied 42 for near $150. Not sure what the hammer price ended up at either. That's 3-4x the value of a common back. I bet the two guys that were interested in my Pied 42 collection at National a few yrs back are kicking themselves now for not taking the deal.

John was that the Wiltse right ear var?