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Old 10-01-2014, 08:10 AM
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it' been about 20 yrs this year that I haven't liked it.
ahhh! The strike and the cancellation of the World Series!
Ironically Baseball hit the jackpot 4 years later w/ the McGwire/Sosa HR Derby season.
Now they are tainted as well.
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Old 10-01-2014, 08:30 AM
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The team used the promotion to better their sales. They gave their word the jersey was to go to the winner of that promotion. A verbal contract is what it is. They backed out of their contract without the woman's consent. Oh she agreed, I guess, but they probably made it clear, she was not going to get the uniform.
It should have been her decision to keep the jersey or let the team/player keep it with an equal value item for the exchange. It was hers, and she was wronged by a breach of contract.
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Old 10-01-2014, 09:13 AM
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Should at least give her his hat from the game. Or the catcher's jersey. Maybe his mit. Something that commemorates the no-hitter. Luck is luck. The message the Nats are sending to me is that fans aren't important, even when they're supporting the team and charity. I agree that the accomplishment is Zimmerman's and he should get to keep his mementos, but at the same time a deal is a deal and she should have been awarded something of equal measure.

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Old 10-01-2014, 10:45 AM
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I would say the most important piece of information is "what was the contract?" Was there an "out" or not. My feelings and opinion really hinge on that information. There is not enough in the posted story to understand that.

If there wasn't and this woman chose to give away her "winning lottery ticket", well, she wouldn't be the first.......
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Old 10-01-2014, 11:13 AM
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ahhh! The strike and the cancellation of the World Series!
Ironically Baseball hit the jackpot 4 years later w/ the McGwire/Sosa HR Derby season.
Now they are tainted as well.
Baseball is one resilient sport
That's because the nastiness always has the potential of being cleaned up, and that's what we want. It took a long time for most of us to get over the strike, but all it took for some to get over the steroid thing (partially, anyway) was when the HOF voters began shunning those guys as they became eligible.
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I had Steiner pull something very similar with me. About two weeks before a yankees game I pre ordered and paid for the line up card(it was to be my nephews first ever yankees game). The game turns out to be arods 600 hr. Steiner refused to make good on the deal.
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I had Steiner pull something very similar with me. About two weeks before a yankees game I pre ordered and paid for the line up card(it was to be my nephews first ever yankees game). The game turns out to be arods 600 hr. Steiner refused to make good on the deal.
Now, that just sucks! I don't know the fine print on those pre-orders, but it still seems like bad practice. I've already lost a lot of respect for Steiner's company...selling signed balls at ridiculous prices (small fortunes).
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Once again, the fans come last. Without fans there would be no game to pitch a no hitter.
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I had Steiner pull something very similar with me. About two weeks before a yankees game I pre ordered and paid for the line up card(it was to be my nephews first ever yankees game). The game turns out to be arods 600 hr. Steiner refused to make good on the deal.
Unless that lineup card is going to the Hall of Fame, that's really really bad form on Steiner's part. It actually seems worse to me than the Zimmerman jersey thing since you ordered it in advance, whereas she entered some sort of lottery and didn't have any real expectation of getting the jersey, much less a historical one. You really shouldn't be able to sell memorabilia weeks in advance with an "unless it turns out to be valuable then I get to sell it to someone else for a much higher price" clause, in my opinion. Imagine if after the game, the Yankees sent you a bill for $500 because they said getting to see A-Rod's 600th and keep the ticket stub was now worth a lot more than what you had paid for it.
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Old 10-03-2014, 09:18 AM
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Unless that lineup card is going to the Hall of Fame, that's really really bad form on Steiner's part. It actually seems worse to me than the Zimmerman jersey thing since you ordered it in advance, whereas she entered some sort of lottery and didn't have any real expectation of getting the jersey, much less a historical one. You really shouldn't be able to sell memorabilia weeks in advance with an "unless it turns out to be valuable then I get to sell it to someone else for a much higher price" clause, in my opinion. Imagine if after the game, the Yankees sent you a bill for $500 because they said getting to see A-Rod's 600th and keep the ticket stub was now worth a lot more than what you had paid for it.
I guess it would reasonably followed up by the IRS trying to tax you on the value of the stub after it gained historical significance!

As long as fans keep supporting the game by spending their money - regardless of what the "talk" is, the money makers have no incentive to do anything differently! Want to really make a difference, get people to send letters stating how much they have spent on games, souvenirs, food etc in the previous 12 months and their decision to quietly protest by not spending any money for 1 year, 2 years etc. for each incident like this that occurs. It would be like a "fan strike" of sorts!
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