Diamond Dust punchboards - to punch or not to punch?

[cincicards]

Here are a few boards that I had once upon a time, plus a couple of pages from a punchboard catalog and a card.

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[JoeDfan]

My Joe DiMaggio SGC Authentic(?) card looks to be made of cigarette paper or something, and I can easily see where it might have been rolled up.
However, my card is 1" exactly in diameter, but the board is only 3/4" in diameter. I think for the moment, I will NOT punch it out; but if I change my mind, I promise that I will film the whole thing!
Thanks everyone for the information; although now I must admit, I am more curious about these cards then when I started!

[1880nonsports]

too big for the scanner

[edjs]

For what it is worth, the Standard Catalog says the 1940 Diamond Dust Punchboard cards were rolled up inside the punchboard. It has a nice description about the 1940 only, and mentions that earlier and later Diamond Dust punchboard cards are uncatalogued.

Ed

[Butch7999]

Was it Twain or was it Lincoln who said something like "Better to remain silent and be thought an idiot
than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt"... Kind of wishing now that we'd never piped up in this thread
and put our ignorance on display...
Randall's pic of the accordion-folded Newson has us all but convinced that once again we didn't know
what we were talking about -- couldn't see the folds in Ben's pic of the DiMaggio, but the two "cards" seem a match in format.
Couldn't imagine how there could've been much of anything inside the punch-out dots of a relatively thin, flat punchboard,
but we can kinda see now how a rolling-paper-thin "card" could be given an accordion fold and then rolled into
a tight little coil to be pushed out of the board.
We'll just add that unless Newson is one of the players listed on Adam's board, none of the punchboards we've ever seen,
including any of the Diamond Dust variations, features Newson among the players listed on the front, so it's possible
that the punched-out "cards" are included only in that yet-to-be-catalogued board.
We're gonna go sit in the corner now and shut up.

[Exhibitman]

I've never seen a punchboard confirmed to have the cards in it, but I am 100% convinced that the cards were accordion folded and placed into the boards to be punched out.

The Newson [sic; Newsom] is another that matches the 39-47 Exhibit Salutations, right down to the error, and is checklisted in the Standard Catalog. It also has the serial # and the code # on the back, just like my paper slip. Speaking of the Standard Catalog, I checked my 2013 Vintage version and it reports a 624-punch board as housing the cards. I assume that was based on something concrete? If so, we are looking for a big board at least 1.25" thick.

Butch, how thick is the board with the card images on it?

Here's a thought as to why cards: gambling laws. Some of the modern card companies defended 'chase' cards as not gambling on the basis that the base product in the pack was worth at least the cost of the pack. Perhaps the DD maker was trying that strategy to bypass anti-gambling laws, arguing that the cards were worth the price?

[Butch7999]

Hi Adam -- we're chiming in again only because you asked -- we don't have any of the boards shown in this thread,
and have been hands-on with only a few boards ever. The few we've handled didn't seem much thicker than
a heavy sheet of cardboard -- maybe 3/16" or so -- thus our initial skepticism that they could contain any sort of card.
But if the "cards" shown here are, if we infer correctly, about one inch in width, two inches high, then the accordion folds
they exhibit are no more than roughly 1/16". That inch-long, 1/16"-thick strip could be coiled into a tight circle
and placed inside the punch-out dots, therefore requiring no thickness of the punchboard greater than the circa 3/16"
that we've observed. And just from photo evidence, other boards are clearly thicker than that, maybe 3/8"-1/2".
We just took a look through our photo files, trying to locate any board with exactly 624 holes, but couldn't find one.
All the Diamond Dust versions we've seen have exactly 600.