Reach and Spalding Pages on ebay

[glynparson]

I think you stated much more eloquently what I was trying to say. I am not for it but I am not going to chastise the buyers either. I do not enjoy telling people what they have when they show me one of those pages in those crappy slabs. But to me those were being presented often as cards not what they really are. I get the outrage when not disclosed I just refuse to have it when the item is clearly identified. Though I do find it as Barry said Tacky.

[barrysloate]

Anytime.

[tschock]

A ) Ain't nobody's business if someone chops up a book that they own.
B ) I wouldn't do that myself (for the most part*).
C ) If someone asked me if they should do it, I would be agin' it (for the most part*).

*Depends on how bad shape the book is in to start with. Just missing a few pages or already half gone and rat nibbled? Two different situations.

For those who are interested in these complete as reference material, why don't you scan the ones you have and make the scanned versions available? Or if you don't have them and want the reference material, why not try something like this or that ?

[bwbc917]

A little different perspective. I am trying to amass a picture/card etc of every Cleveland Indian/Nap etc. To that end, minor league team photos are a must. I can buy every Reach and Spalding guide there is and be out a huge sum of money( as I have on the 75 in my collection) or I can purchase a cutout from one of the Guides.
I have turned to buying cutouts. Instead of $50 or more on a book , I might spend 6-8 bucks for the ones I need out of it. BY the way: any one have a 1926 Crisfield in the Eastern Shore league? I'm looking for Jackie Gallagher.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by glynparson

I think you stated much more eloquently what I was trying to say. I am not for it but I am not going to chastise the buyers either. I do not enjoy telling people what they have when they show me one of those pages in those crappy slabs. But to me those were being presented often as cards not what they really are. I get the outrage when not disclosed I just refuse to have it when the item is clearly identified. Though I do find it as Barry said Tacky.

Good try, and I can't think of a better ass to kiss in this discussion, but no - what Barry said and what you said had almost nothing in common. But your viewpoint is evolving and your tap-dancing is also getting better.

[glynparson]

The liquor you so love has clearly affected your brain. I stated every freaking time I am not for them but will not judge a person that so chooses to buy them. This also means as I stated it is not illegal I even said I was not sure it was not unethical. Which I decided it was not. I also stated I would not do it. You need to quit your beloved spirits because they have made you downright stupid. You are just an old bitter angry drunken loser. If this is so important instead of all the money you spend on booze spend some for these guides. And for your information Scott i could not even guess the last time I had a drink so again you are wrong. Ps drunkie why not attack Chris an admitted consumer of them? Maybe because his reasoning is sound? Let people collect what makes them happy don't be an angry old bitter drunkard. Maybe this analogy will make sense cutting up the magazines like being a drunk are two things I think are wrong. that does not mean I do not think an adult of legal age should not have the right to be a lush. even though I do not like alcohol personally I will defend the rights of the lush and of the manufacturer of the spirits, just as I did the collector and the dealer that correctly identifies them when selling.

[EvilKing00]

Lol hey Andy, look what you started...

In all seriousness though. I like my t205's, i like my babe ruth cards, i would like to begin collecting t3 and i also like reach and spalding guides. I have bought a few, one was comlpeat and in good shape, still have it in tact, 2 were missing pages and in 2 pieces. I have some pages in large top loaders that i love, strange saying that, but having a 1914 ruth on his minor league team i think is as close as ill ever get to his rookie card. Sad but true. I have even sold a few pages i had doubles of. I wouldnt cut up a perfectly good book though, and wouldnt recomend anyone doing so.

I also like having a few drinks on a friday but im not sure what that has to do with this conversation lmao

[Kenny Cole]

Glad I had a couple of cocktails before I read this thread. Drunk or sober I am vehemently opposed to cutting up the old guides. I understand that those who own them can do what they want, which is almost always true with regard to whatever someone owns. I suppose that if those who own a great work of art decide to cut it up or spray paint it, they have that right too. That certainly doesn't justify doing it.

When someone destroys something with societal or historical value, it seems to me that the equation should change. IMO, when things like that occur, we are all lessened as a society. In that regard, I am, to say the least, troubled by the fact that some people who purportedly "agree" with the sentiment that it should not occur basically then say that they don't give a shit when it actually happens because the owner can do what they want with it. That is both disingenuous and inconsistent.

It nauseates every time I see a cut out advertised. I will never buy one and if I know that you cut up a guide, I probably won't buy anything else from you, ever, because I think you suck. Others may feel differently, and they certainly have the right to do so. But that's my take.

[ooo-ribay]

Even worse, IMO, are the modern cards incorporating bits of game used bats or unis.

[Tao_Moko]

This thread got a little weird. I hadn't had anything to drink until I sat down to work tonight and check on how this thread was going. Ended up pouring myself a couple fingers of rye.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by glynparson

The liquor you so love has clearly affected your brain. I stated every freaking time I am not for them but will not judge a person that so chooses to buy them. This also means as I stated it is not illegal I even said I was not sure it was not unethical. Which I decided it was not. I also stated I would not do it. You need to quit your beloved spirits because they have made you downright stupid. You are just an old bitter angry drunken loser. If this is so important instead of all the money you spend on booze spend some for these guides. And for your information Scott i could not even guess the last time I had a drink so again you are wrong. Ps drunkie why not attack Chris an admitted consumer of them? Maybe because his reasoning is sound? Let people collect what makes them happy don't be an angry old bitter drunkard. Maybe this analogy will make sense cutting up the magazines like being a drunk are two things I think are wrong. that does not mean I do not think an adult of legal age should not have the right to be a lush. even though I do not like alcohol personally I will defend the rights of the lush and of the manufacturer of the spirits, just as I did the collector and the dealer that correctly identifies them when selling.

That's all very amusing.

I'm guessing that your fixation on alcohol and drunkenness has something to do with either yourself, or perhaps someone in your family? That would also explain all the name-calling. I don't know you and don't take any of your rants seriously, so if it takes away some of the pain, knock yourself out.