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Old 09-30-2014, 05:04 PM
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with very few known has extreme historical significance a book with untold amounts of copies still floating around is not. If it were the value would be too large to take this risks of buying and cutting them up. Look at it as maybe a good investment if you truly feel so many are being cut up that it will effect the supply greatly buy some intact books and forget about them for a while.

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Old 09-30-2014, 05:14 PM
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with very few known has extreme historical significance a book with untold amounts of copies still floating around is not. If it were the value would be too large to take this risks of buying and cutting them up. Look at it as maybe a good investment if you truly feel so many are being cut up that it will effect the supply greatly by some intact books and forget about them for a while.
I agree with you about the comparison not being equal when it comes to rarity, but when cut up can no longer be enjoyed in it's original form. In the case of Dante/Dore would be sad to lose the value of the story that goes with the image just like a sliver of a bat loses the weight of it's design and purpose. I understand that just because I don't favor it doesn't mean that it shouldn't continue to happen for the sake of profit. It's an interesting topic to chime in on and I'm curious to read more opinions from our members. Or, do you want to put it to bed and start another Titus thread?
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I have stated before people can do whatever they like. Just like people use beater t206 cards to test altering card theories.
Or people cut down sheets. I just personally can't do it. I also don't understand anyone buying a single page from a book.

There is a thread about Jeter collectors being crazy. I think "pages from books" collectors to be crazy. To me it is just as crazy as cutting out just the Nolan Ryan picture from a 1968 Topps. I understand you aren't a Jerry Koosman collector but you just cut the card in half.

Think about it like this. Who would want a uncut strip of t206 cards. How about a uncut strip with Wagner and Plank on it? There was one, but because someone decided to cut it up to sell the cards individually it no longer exsists. Sometimes the long term goal of preserving history should be the goal instead of the short term minimal monetary return.
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And books with countless copies are apples and oranges. I will not cut up the books or buy the pages does not mean I will tell others how to spend their money or judge them for it as long as they are not hurting anyone in the process

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It's neither illegal or unethical to cut the pages out of books, but it's tacky and collectors frown upon it. It's our job as collectors to preserve artifacts, not destroy them. Of course anyone is free to cut up the books, but to me that isn't the point.
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I think you stated much more eloquently what I was trying to say. I am not for it but I am not going to chastise the buyers either. I do not enjoy telling people what they have when they show me one of those pages in those crappy slabs. But to me those were being presented often as cards not what they really are. I get the outrage when not disclosed I just refuse to have it when the item is clearly identified. Though I do find it as Barry said Tacky.

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I think you stated much more eloquently what I was trying to say. I am not for it but I am not going to chastise the buyers either. I do not enjoy telling people what they have when they show me one of those pages in those crappy slabs. But to me those were being presented often as cards not what they really are. I get the outrage when not disclosed I just refuse to have it when the item is clearly identified. Though I do find it as Barry said Tacky.
Good try, and I can't think of a better ass to kiss in this discussion, but no - what Barry said and what you said had almost nothing in common. But your viewpoint is evolving and your tap-dancing is also getting better.
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It's neither illegal or unethical to cut the pages out of books, but it's tacky and collectors frown upon it. It's our job as collectors to preserve artifacts, not destroy them. Of course anyone is free to cut up the books, but to me that isn't the point.
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I completely agree with you.

And quite well said, as usual.

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