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Old 09-23-2014, 10:54 AM
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I honestly feel like the problem is that no one will accept an opinion as being nothing more than an opinion. If everyone can just accept that an informed opinion is better than just any opinion, and move forward with that understanding, then all is well.

But of course that is just a small part. The other thing to overcome is giving favorable opinions to people because of a prior or ongoing relationship or advertising your opinion as something of a guarantee. Not saying anyone does or doesn't do these things, just saying they are issues to overcome.

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Old 09-23-2014, 11:12 AM
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i submit so much and i have psa and jsa fail stuff , i am pretty sure its real sometimes positive it is real , do i start a thread ? jsa failed a maravich i had , it was real i would bet my life on it , but it wont happen , people want that with a psa or jsa cert, you can sell it for 200 without or 500 with a cert , sellit without and they send it and and you get a negative feedback along with the 200 . and a unhappy customer. get it certed as real which it is and everybody is happy and you make money. i am amazed at just how poor of businessmen are on here and in this business , just last week on that long thead on spence and the stengel ,earlywynnfan who i assume is the earlywynnfan on ebay who sells alot of baseballs , had to chime in to make a point and brought up a 20.00 baseball i had listed maybe 5 years and 50000 items ago , now if this is the guy on ebay i have spent hundreds to thousands on his items , uncerted and of course they sell for next to nothing , now after that i wouldnt buy a thing from him and he will continue to chase crumbs , just bad business . same as starting these threads that just cast a bad light on this business . it doesnt matter who certs some dealers wont spend anything for anybody to cert a item . all things aside business end clueless on how to make money , people want some type of cert and they want to buy it from a respected seller they can trust
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:36 AM
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just a note on jim stinson , i consider him one of the most legit sellers on ebay for uncerted stuff or certed for that matter , i cant wait each week to take a look i always try and buy stuff or at least give it a shot . i would trust him buying from maybe before anybody listing on ebay , and thats the 100% truth , now do i see things he list i dont like sure , i dont buy them , even if the may pass , i dont want the headache , same with items i see in a holder or certed , i will just pass if i dont like them. jim made a good comment a few weeks ago to me , the psa/dna holders are lego blocks for adults , that is so true , but its a hobby and people like legos. our conversation came after i got a neutral from a guy who bought a ball that the cert and sticker on the ball psa/dna had on the database as a different player , that pissed me off , but i worked it out and the neutral is gone and the guy has spent about 500.00 since. i see jim the last few days got a negative feedback on a adolph rupp that he sold and psa/dna failed it for the customer as a secretarial signature , i saw it and did not bid on it , just the way it goes . i have already looked at jims stuff today and will keep buying and i suggest others do as well , but each piece is its own and just because psa/dna fails something it doesnt become open season for a day , and then friday when they have a opinion something is real and you disagree we start over
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Old 09-23-2014, 11:54 AM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
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Old 09-23-2014, 12:06 PM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
ok i didnt say jim chased crumbs so follow along , and i am sure he is upset but it is the nature of the business in 2014 and a very important part of ebay , if you dont want to throw money at a tpa then you risk this because it is what customers want , and a good businessman will do the best he can to make them happy , then you end up like me with a neutral because the certed ball was entered wrong, i took the energy and contacted them had psa fix it and he spent more money , it is business. i dont want to pay ebay the fees i pay them each month either so what do i do ? bash ebay?
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:03 PM
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I think I know why Jim is upset, and I don't really blame him.

Looks like he ate a bit of money on an item, quickly refunded when PSA disagreed with him, and still got saddled with a neg.

He's probably a little upset, that somebody who most likely has less experience and expertise then himself, holds sway over him.

....and if you look at his auctions, Jim doesn't exactly "chase crumbs". I think he has plenty of customer confidence and does fairly well without having to throw thousands of dollars into the coffers of the TPA's.
I'd like to know the ebay name of that buyer so I can block him from my auctions. That guy has enough ebay feedback and experience to know that he shouldn't be giving out negatives when he got refunded quickly like that. That's BS.
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Old 09-23-2014, 03:17 PM
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I care more about the fact that the guy trust the tpa's more than they trust Jim.
To have that power and to use it to make there competiion suffer is sick.
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I do not know if this is why this was posted, but it makes sense if it is in relation to the Rupp. If it is in reference to the Rupp signature, then the buyer is a D-bag. What more can a seller do than issue a refund if there is a dispute on an item. I received a negative recently too after 3000 without for pretty much the same thing. It's very disappointing.

The second part of this would be, is PSA correct? I believe they are. Rupp is a signature that I would look for, although I did not see this one. If I did see this one, I would not have bid on it. Just my opinion and I am not trying to say anything negative about Jim as I believe him to be as honest as the day is long. Bottom line is whether you agree or not, Jim did the right think and got screwed by some guy. That is a major problem with Ebay, but one you have to live with if you choose to sell that route. I hate it too.
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just a note on jim stinson , i consider him one of the most legit sellers on ebay for uncerted stuff or certed for that matter , i cant wait each week to take a look i always try and buy stuff or at least give it a shot . i would trust him buying from maybe before anybody listing on ebay , and thats the 100% truth , now do i see things he list i dont like sure , i dont buy them , even if the may pass , i dont want the headache , same with items i see in a holder or certed , i will just pass if i dont like them. jim made a good comment a few weeks ago to me , the psa/dna holders are lego blocks for adults , that is so true , but its a hobby and people like legos. our conversation came after i got a neutral from a guy who bought a ball that the cert and sticker on the ball psa/dna had on the database as a different player , that pissed me off , but i worked it out and the neutral is gone and the guy has spent about 500.00 since. i see jim the last few days got a negative feedback on a adolph rupp that he sold and psa/dna failed it for the customer as a secretarial signature , i saw it and did not bid on it , just the way it goes . i have already looked at jims stuff today and will keep buying and i suggest others do as well , but each piece is its own and just because psa/dna fails something it doesnt become open season for a day , and then friday when they have a opinion something is real and you disagree we start over

I have to agree with most of this. Autographs are a tough game sometimes. One way or another, just be as careful as you possibly can, and if you hear that little bird in the back of your head that says "don't do it!".....listen to it and just move on to the next item.
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When you have the power and the money to bring down people it sucks. I am waiting for the day when people wake up and find that two guys are controlling a billion dollar industry and they alone controll it to the point that best in the business cant sell a product without there ok. This is sad for so many reasons.
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I have to agree with most of this. Autographs are a tough game sometimes. One way or another, just be as careful as you possibly can, and if you hear that little bird in the back of your head that says "don't do it!".....listen to it and just move on to the next item.
oh that little bird sings alot an it is hard not to listen brother
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