JimStinson

[packs]

Couldn't anyone start a competing TPA any time they wanted?

[DaClyde]

Originally Posted by packs

Couldn't anyone start a competing TPA any time they wanted?

Judging from eBay, people do it every day.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by packs

Couldn't anyone start a competing TPA any time they wanted?

Sure they can, too many already, but are any of them moral or competent?

[packs]

That's a product of the people behind the companies. I would love to see an independent, hobby-involved company come out. It takes a lot of cooperation and risk. But the market is out there.

The key issue to overcome I think is being independent. That means no relationships at all with dealers or collectors beyond providing a service.

[Econteachert205]

Originally Posted by packs

That's a product of the people behind the companies. I would love to see an independent, hobby-involved company come out. It takes a lot of cooperation and risk. But the market is out there.

The key issue to overcome I think is being independent. That means no relationships at all with dealers or collectors beyond providing a service.

+1. Totally agree

[shelly]

This site has some very good people. The problem is everyone here gets a free opinion. Why would they pay?
Dan the reason he put his name up there was for you to know exactly how he feels and no one else.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by shelly

This site has some very good people. The problem is everyone here gets a free opinion. Why would they pay?
Dan the reason he put his name up there was for you to know exactly how he feels and no one else.

Okay, wasn't exactly sure why he made a post like that...I thought perhaps he meant for that post to go into another thread but accidentally started a new one.

[chaddurbin]

that neg is harsh! jim should go work for a tpa, self-cert all his stuff and start raking in the dough (like other less qualified "authenticators" out there).

[khw]

Originally Posted by packs

That's a product of the people behind the companies. I would love to see an independent, hobby-involved company come out. It takes a lot of cooperation and risk. But the market is out there.

The key issue to overcome I think is being independent. That means no relationships at all with dealers or collectors beyond providing a service.

yeah that will be fine until said company fails a item that somebody sells and it gets returned and it will start all over again , thats the whole thing that drives these discussions and threads , not really that hard to figure out what goes on. like i said there is always the option for anybody out here to start certing stuff , but be aware when you fail something you will have a thread all to yourself , or it may just be some dealers will never pony up the fees to have things certed , and to level the field figure it is easier to discredit the stuff that is certed , buy from me!!!!! what if the people who know what they are doing and pay to have their stuff certed , started as many threads the other way? buy from me !!!! like i said not that hard to figure out , this is more like the y2k scare than a racket just my opinion , i am going to do the best i can to do right make folks happy and make money

[packs]

I honestly feel like the problem is that no one will accept an opinion as being nothing more than an opinion. If everyone can just accept that an informed opinion is better than just any opinion, and move forward with that understanding, then all is well.

But of course that is just a small part. The other thing to overcome is giving favorable opinions to people because of a prior or ongoing relationship or advertising your opinion as something of a guarantee. Not saying anyone does or doesn't do these things, just saying they are issues to overcome.

[khw]

i submit so much and i have psa and jsa fail stuff , i am pretty sure its real sometimes positive it is real , do i start a thread ? jsa failed a maravich i had , it was real i would bet my life on it , but it wont happen , people want that with a psa or jsa cert, you can sell it for 200 without or 500 with a cert , sellit without and they send it and and you get a negative feedback along with the 200 . and a unhappy customer. get it certed as real which it is and everybody is happy and you make money. i am amazed at just how poor of businessmen are on here and in this business , just last week on that long thead on spence and the stengel ,earlywynnfan who i assume is the earlywynnfan on ebay who sells alot of baseballs , had to chime in to make a point and brought up a 20.00 baseball i had listed maybe 5 years and 50000 items ago , now if this is the guy on ebay i have spent hundreds to thousands on his items , uncerted and of course they sell for next to nothing , now after that i wouldnt buy a thing from him and he will continue to chase crumbs , just bad business . same as starting these threads that just cast a bad light on this business . it doesnt matter who certs some dealers wont spend anything for anybody to cert a item . all things aside business end clueless on how to make money , people want some type of cert and they want to buy it from a respected seller they can trust

[khw]

just a note on jim stinson , i consider him one of the most legit sellers on ebay for uncerted stuff or certed for that matter , i cant wait each week to take a look i always try and buy stuff or at least give it a shot . i would trust him buying from maybe before anybody listing on ebay , and thats the 100% truth , now do i see things he list i dont like sure , i dont buy them , even if the may pass , i dont want the headache , same with items i see in a holder or certed , i will just pass if i dont like them. jim made a good comment a few weeks ago to me , the psa/dna holders are lego blocks for adults , that is so true , but its a hobby and people like legos. our conversation came after i got a neutral from a guy who bought a ball that the cert and sticker on the ball psa/dna had on the database as a different player , that pissed me off , but i worked it out and the neutral is gone and the guy has spent about 500.00 since. i see jim the last few days got a negative feedback on a adolph rupp that he sold and psa/dna failed it for the customer as a secretarial signature , i saw it and did not bid on it , just the way it goes . i have already looked at jims stuff today and will keep buying and i suggest others do as well , but each piece is its own and just because psa/dna fails something it doesnt become open season for a day , and then friday when they have a opinion something is real and you disagree we start over