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Old 09-20-2014, 12:20 AM
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I still think that for standard card sizes, SGC w/ the black inserts still look the best as long as there isn't float. If the insert doesn't quite fit the card and there are gaps, I agree it doesn't look so good. PSA looks better in the larger holders, especially the 5x7 ones. Beckett is best for modern cards or for odd size cards where you don't want any float. With the insert, Beckett is the best, and they have a rock solid holder. They are the holder that I would be least worried about if I dropped it from 6 feet compared to the other two.
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Old 09-20-2014, 07:06 AM
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I still think that for standard card sizes, SGC w/ the black inserts still look the best as long as there isn't float. If the insert doesn't quite fit the card and there are gaps, I agree it doesn't look so good. PSA looks better in the larger holders, especially the 5x7 ones. Beckett is best for modern cards or for odd size cards where you don't want any float. With the insert, Beckett is the best, and they have a rock solid holder. They are the holder that I would be least worried about if I dropped it from 6 feet compared to the other two.
Great point Gary. I LOVE Beckett holders as they are indestructible, stackable, and the inner sleeve is incredible. The downside (there always is one) is that the vintage market seems to gravitate towards PSA and SGC. I have HARD and REAL data from experience over the past year that CLEARLY shows PSA cards sell for more (in the same conditions). PSA sells higher, then SGC, then Beckett so.......while I really prefer Beckett holders, the market still rewards PSA cards. Maybe this will change in time but I can see it with my own eyes thank you. (small print: Please don't email me saying that your SGC card sells for more. I understand the market and know that QUALITY untampered cards will sometimes sell for more. As a matter of fact I paid a premium recently on two SGC cards that were SGC 88s. I could have bought PSA 8s for a little cheaper BUT I always buy the card and not the holder.) I own graded cards from all 3 companies but PSA across the boards will assist you greater in your bank account. Nuff sed McGreevy.

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Great point Gary. I LOVE Beckett holders as they are indestructible, stackable, and the inner sleeve is incredible. The downside (there always is one) is that the vintage market seems to gravitate towards PSA and SGC. I have HARD and REAL data from experience over the past year that CLEARLY shows PSA cards sell for more (in the same conditions). PSA sells higher, then SGC, then Beckett so.......while I really prefer Beckett holders, the market still rewards PSA cards. Maybe this will change in time but I can see it with my own eyes thank you. (small print: Please don't email me saying that your SGC card sells for more. I understand the market and know that QUALITY untampered cards will sometimes sell for more. As a matter of fact I paid a premium recently on two SGC cards that were SGC 88s. I could have bought PSA 8s for a little cheaper BUT I always buy the card and not the holder.) I own graded cards from all 3 companies but PSA across the boards will assist you greater in your bank account. Nuff sed McGreevy.

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+1. When I sold some 1960 SGC 9's for around $8 each, while I saw their PSA counterparts sell for $200+, that was enough to convince me.
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I still like the look of the SGC holders the best. From my observations if you have a very high grade registry card, and it is a set that is competed for in the PSA registry, then those cards bring more because there is more and stronger demand (more for registry points than the the card). Short of that I think SGC values hold up well against PSA and do better than Beckett. Personally I have all 3 TPG companies cards and I always buy the card. I do stay away from some high grade cards, in all holders, as I don't trust them to be unaltered. Just my 2 cents.
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I still like the look of the SGC holders the best. From my observations if you have a very high grade registry card, and it is a set that is competed for in the PSA registry, then those cards bring more because there is more and stronger demand (more for registry points than the the card). Short of that I think SGC values hold up well against PSA and do better than Beckett. Personally I have all 3 TPG companies cards and I always buy the card. I do stay away from some high grade cards, in all holders, as I don't trust them to be unaltered. Just my 2 cents.
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Well said. I truly believe the reason PSA sells strong is because of the marketing they do and the registry members are higher than SGC and Beckett (so like you said, more buyers or bidders). I also like SGC holders BUT when I go to sell it seems that if I have similar grades then the PSA does better. I have seen some absolute beauties in SGC holders bring VERY high prices which makes sense because typically their higher grades are VERY nice. Good counterpoints.

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whats cards specifically? thats crazy
Brian,
I have very hard and solid data on 1948 Leaf Boxing and 1948 Bowman Basketball that leaned in that very direction also so......for now with these, I'm going with PSA. As a matter of fact, my 1948 Bowman Basketball Registry set is #30 or so with maybe the 6th highest GPA on the board and all because of the 2014 Series One Vermont Find. I'm still looking for those darn Series 2 and Mr. Mikan.......

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I have very hard and solid data on 1948 Leaf Boxing and 1948 Bowman Basketball that leaned in that very direction also so......for now with these, I'm going with PSA. As a matter of fact, my 1948 Bowman Basketball Registry set is #30 or so with maybe the 6th highest GPA on the board and all because of the 2014 Series One Vermont Find. I'm still looking for those darn Series 2 and Mr. Mikan.......

take care, mike
Even though I am not a registry type collector I do love the passion involved. It's friendly and great competition. (and it's CARDS ). May all Registry collectors reading get the extra point they need!!
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Leon,

I had dabbled in Registry (Salada Hockey Coins) because I found some really nice ones but the 1948 Bowman Basketball is my first card Registry Set. I only started it because I was able to get a majority of Series 1 in the find. That being said, the series 2 cards are going to crush me as they are VERY expensive in high grades and it is a multi multi year project (if you say multi twice does that make it a TON of years? )

It is fun though and just a bit addicting. Makes me focus though as that is all I have been looking for lately so its fun, take care ,

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