Change of Pace: 1962 Green Tints (scan heavy)

[JollyElm]

I forgot the thread we had going a long while back, but it featured a ton of cards that PSA, et al, had misidentified as green tints. Well, I ran into this blatantly wrong one tonight on ebay (and I don't even bother telling the sellers they have a mislabeled card anymore, because the sellers always ignore the facts and just leave the cards up)…
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Yowza!!! Not even close. I think the folks at PSA could use my comprehensive GT guide. If anyone has any connections over there, PLMK.

[ALR-bishop]

In the current issue of SCD ( October 3), in his "Leading Off" column, Tim Bartsch, the SCD editor and gateway to getting variations listed in their catalog, writes generically about variations and variation collectors. He mentions that in an upcoming issue they will be looking "in depth" at the 62 green tints.

Darren---you may already be plugged into that effort. If not you may want to get in touch with him...tom.bartsch@fwmedia.com

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

In the current issue of SCD ( October 3), in his "Leading Off" column, Tim Bartsch, the SCD editor and gateway to getting variations listed in their catalog, writes generically about variations and variation collectors. He mentions that in an upcoming issue they will be looking "in depth" and the 62 green tints.

Darren---you may already be plugged into that effort. If not you may want to get in touch with him...tom.bartsch@fwmedia.com

Hey Al.
I contacted Tom a few weeks ago and we exchanged an e-mail or two regarding my comprehensive 1962 Green Tints Guide, but I haven't heard anything in a while, so it doesn't look like I'll be involved in that issue. Too bad.

[ALR-bishop]

If this turns out to be another generic article about the green tints that would be a shame. Did you send him a copy of your guide ? Or maybe a sample

[aelefson]

I am going through my 1962 Topps cards and am trying to determine if I have any green tints. This thread has been an amazing resource, as has the flickr account with all of them side by side. Darren, I would pay for a copy of the guide you developed if you ever decide to distribute it.

Can anyone explain the difference on Chuck Hiller 188? Checking the flickr account, it looks like the green tint as a less pronounced green field in the background, and that the pole is almost red in color as opposed to the regular version with a dark green field and a black colored pole. Is this accurate?

Also, what are the tells for Bob Nieman 182? I could not discern any from the flickr page. How about the Hot Corner Guardians 163? Bob Duliba 149? Alou 133? Woodling 125? Murphy 119? I am sorry for all of the questions but looking at the cards side by side on the flickr page I could not tell the difference between these six.

Thanks in advance,
Alan

[aelefson]

The last ones I could not determine are 116 Herb Score, 161 Frank Baumann, and 180 Bob Allison. Can anyone please provide the green tint tells for these cards? Again, thank you so much to both Darren and Tom for all of their hard work on identifying these and helping fellow collectors.

Alan

[redalpha7]

On Bobby Allison, look at the bottom button on the uniform. Full button is GT

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by aelefson

I am going through my 1962 Topps cards and am trying to determine if I have any green tints. This thread has been an amazing resource, as has the flickr account with all of them side by side. Darren, I would pay for a copy of the guide you developed if you ever decide to distribute it.

Can anyone explain the difference on Chuck Hiller 188? Checking the flickr account, it looks like the green tint as a less pronounced green field in the background, and that the pole is almost red in color as opposed to the regular version with a dark green field and a black colored pole. Is this accurate?

Also, what are the tells for Bob Nieman 182? I could not discern any from the flickr page. How about the Hot Corner Guardians 163? Bob Duliba 149? Alou 133? Woodling 125? Murphy 119? I am sorry for all of the questions but looking at the cards side by side on the flickr page I could not tell the difference between these six.

Thanks in advance,
Alan

When you have both versions next to each other (IE on the flickr site or in hand), scan the edges of the card's image closest to the outside border. The differences are easy to see due to the variations in the image's cropping. For example, on the Hiller card, along the top border, you can see that the flag in the background is cropped differently....there is more flag showing on the GT version. On card 182 the on deck circle is larger on the Gt version, on 163 you can see less of Boyer's glove on the GT. You can do this with each card in question.

[redalpha7]

I see a difference in the cloud at the upper left of the card. The cloud is fuller in the GT version.

[aelefson]

Thanks guys! I can cross off 180, 182, and 188 from my mystery list as your comments helped me determine that mine are not green tints.

I still cannot seem to see differences in the hot corner card (163). Can anyone please post clearer pictures on that one? I do not see any difference as to how much the glove shows but I also am not very good at picking out such distinctions. I also still cannot see any differences on 161 (Baumann), 149 (Duliba), 133 (Alou), 125 (Woodling), 119 (Murphy), and 116 (Score). On the Score, is it the orange flare thing on the left side of the card? I can post my examples if that is easier.

I also really appreciate all of the help. Please know that I have spent a large amount of time studying the flickr website and this thread as I never want to waste board members' time when I can do the research on my own. I just do not see any differences on 116, 119, 125, 133, 149, and 161. Thanks again for any help you can provide.

Alan