Hall's Nostalgia - end of an era?

[granite75]

That's sad. My first auction as a kid.

[ALR-bishop]

I had never heard of them until about a year and a half ago when a fellow collector told me he had seen a Topps odd ball baseball item in their latest auction mailer. He faxed me a copy. It sounded interesting and was not listed in the SCD catalog, but there was no picture, just a weird description. So I called and asked if they could send a scan. They said no. I was still interested in taking a shot at it but by phone all you could do was give them a bid. They could not or would not tell me if anyone else had bid and there was no way to check the status of the auction except to call them, which was a painful process.

It was very difficult to participate in their auction if you were doing it by phone and there was no on line option. I gave them a "max" bid and, surprise, I won the item for my max bid. I have not participated in one of their auctions since, but was happy with the item I got. Fairly unique.

[SMPEP]

That was my experience with them too, Al. I put in ridiculous bids on 4 different cards (AT LEAST $200 more than they were worth), and shocker, my sales price was my high bid for all four lots. And similar cards that I had bid less on (because I already had them, but would have taken if I got a reasonable deal on them) ... shockingly those sold for the usual market prices.

You can draw your on conclusion on their honesty, but I know I won't deal with them again.

Patrick

[GoldenAge50s]

I used to set up @ the Peabody shows in the late '80's-early '90's. They were always the best shows in NE at the time and I NEVER had a bad show sales -wise!

Usually had 2 guests signing for FREE or almost nothing! Those were good show days for sure!

[DHogan]

Another long gone show in Boston was at the Boston College High School in South Boston. I recall Bill Russell was signing at one of the shows for about $350.00 in the early 90's.

[GoldenAge50s]

Yes, I did 2 or 3 of those BCHS shows also back then--I had almost forgotten about them.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by DHogan

Another long gone show in Boston was at the Boston College High School in South Boston. I recall Bill Russell was signing at one of the shows for about $350.00 in the early 90's.

Yes, he and Wilt were both there, at least at the show I remember which I think was more mid 90s.

[spec]

Originally Posted by SMPEP

That was my experience with them too, Al. I put in ridiculous bids on 4 different cards (AT LEAST $200 more than they were worth), and shocker, my sales price was my high bid for all four lots. And similar cards that I had bid less on (because I already had them, but would have taken if I got a reasonable deal on them) ... shockingly those sold for the usual market prices.

You can draw your on conclusion on their honesty, but I know I won't deal with them again.

Patrick

Obviously, I can't speak to the auction experiences of Al and Patrick. However, I have known and done business with the Halls for more than 40 years and have not encountered more honest and forthright individuals in my more than half a century in the hobby. 'Nuf Sed!
B.ob Ri.chardson

[ALR-bishop]

Bob-- let me amend. As I said, I was happy with the item I received and ok with the price paid since my max bid was what I was willing to pay. I am an old guy, 64, and by no means a modern guy. I just found dealing with them cumbersome and frustrating. Did not mean to call into question their integrity. Based on what you and others have said I take it that they are like me, just slow or reluctant to change

[Donscards]

I did all the Halls shows years ago---The shows were outstanding (the good old days) and Walter, Joel and David Hall are wonderful people and were always a pleasure to talk with.---I also did the BC high school shows---but to go back further---the old Bishop Guertin show in Nashua NH was the best show in New England in the late 70's and 80's----showing my age---I only do the Greater Boston show now twice a year. Don

[scooter729]

I think the whole family is great, but I think they did themselves a disservice by not keeping up with the times.

The phone bids (with no online bidding option) hurt them as many bidders now would prefer just dealing online. Their consignment fees - which were normal 15+ years ago - were high in comparison now. And because of those factors, consignors got leery about having Halls auction high dollar items.

I don't think they were dishonest at all, but didn't evolve as grading standards evolved. I bought cards from their auction which I hadn't seen but only read the descriptions, only to get them and notice significant paper loss or other material issues with it. When I would mention it to them (and I was a 30 year customer), I would hear, "that's why it was graded VG-ex and not mint, so you should expect things like paper loss." Significant paper loss maybe was the case for a VG-ex card in 1980, but not so much now.

Anyways, I didn't start this to talk badly about Halls - just wanted to point out what I had noticed, and to thank them for many nice card-related memories as I was growing up.