1960 Pittsburgh Pirates Championship Team Ball Opinions

[soughtseven1035]

that is true, but don't you think he would tell me opposite to get a good price on it? i believe he would do it with this ball, but he puporsely said he wouldnt mess around with something that seemed obvious to him. he seems like a huge pirates fan. maybe this is a rare souvenir ball that left out the one name and there isnt many like it. its pretty apparent to all of you and others that it is stamped, but maybe its a rare stamp.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Or, maybe not

[soughtseven1035]

lol im done. thanks for the help guys! dont want to get in a fight with duluth on my first posting on this forum. id like to stick around.

[soughtseven1035]

to clear things up, i was trying to sell this ball to someone else, this guy who gave me the information was being friendly about what he thought about it. he wasnt trying to convince me, i was trying to find out if it was real from him.

[Lordstan]

Guy.
I don't know who your friend is who send all his stuff to JSA/PSA, but if he can't tell this is a stamped ball, then it's obvious he sends stuff in because he has no idea what real signatures look like. I mean no offense, but anyone who has viewed signed balls in any even moderate quantity should be able to tell immediately that that is stamped.

Think about what Ken stated before.

1) no maker stamp.

Where can you buy a ball retail or wholesale that has no stamp of any type? Who would sell a ball without branding?

2)uniform pen pressure

All the sigs are lined up perfectly and equally dark. What are the odds that 20 guys signed a ball exactly the same way.

3)none of the sigs touch, although they may run into the strings without any skipping (just try to do this!)

Even without the string idea, how likely is it that you could get this many guys to signed a ball in perfect alignment? Each sig starts at approx the same point. Each sig has almost the exact spacing. No ink blobs or pen skips in any of the signatures.

I know you want it to be real, but sending it to one of the TPAs is a waste of your money because it is a stamped ball. Sorry.

[bender07]

Originally Posted by soughtseven1035

to clear things up, i was trying to sell this ball to someone else, this guy who gave me the information was being friendly about what he thought about it. he wasnt trying to convince me, i was trying to find out if it was real from him.

That's an important piece of the puzzle. Now it makes sense that why you so badly wanted it to be real. Just chalk it up to a lesson learned.

[jgmp123]

Originally Posted by soughtseven1035

to clear things up, i was trying to sell this ball to someone else, this guy who gave me the information was being friendly about what he thought about it. he wasnt trying to convince me, i was trying to find out if it was real from him.

and if you expect to receive any help from folks here in the future, it's probably best to be honest and up front with everyone from the jump.

Just some advice.

Happy Collecting...

[soughtseven1035]

I thought you guys knew that it was my ball, sorry about that. yes I have learned a lot about signatures through this ball. It has really helped me. Looking at it now, I can definitely tell it's fake. Thanks for all the good advice guys!

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by soughtseven1035

lol im done. thanks for the help guys! dont want to get in a fight with duluth on my first posting on this forum. id like to stick around.

No fight with me, just trying to convince you this is obvious to most. Good luck in the future. Jason