OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his Hall chances

[HOF Auto Rookies]

I don't care if he makes it, I love Dunn. He's such a great person to the game and clubhouse guy. Met him twice and he was so down to earth. Quite an actor too!


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[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

I don't care if he makes it, I love Dunn. He's such a great person to the game and clubhouse guy. Met him twice and he was so down to earth. Quite an actor too!


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I just can't wait to see him in the white shoes!

[ctownboy]

Peter - Spaeth,

I beg to differ.

Look at his fly ball to ground ball ratio. Then look at his home run to fly ball ratio. Dunn is a fly ball hitter who didn't ground into double plays.

If Dunn would have struck out less then he would have made more productive outs not to mention some of the times he actually made contact would have been for hits and home runs.

One other thing I didn't say about Dunn in my previous posts; there was a time where he went almost two full seasons (almost either 1100 at bats or plate appearances) where he DID NOT HIT A SACRIFICE FLY!!!!

Think about THAT.

A guy who bats in the middle of the order and who hits more fly balls than anything when he makes contact and he can't drive a guy in with a Sac Fly for almost two full seasons.

David

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

I don't care if he makes it, I love Dunn. He's such a great person to the game and clubhouse guy. Met him twice and he was so down to earth. Quite an actor too!


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Just because hes a Great person and clubhouse guy doesnt punch your ticket to the HOF. If that was the case I can name you 200 more that should be there! Like I said even if he hit 600 HRs no way on this earth he makes it. Case closed on this one.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by batsballsbases

Just because hes a Great person and clubhouse guy doesnt punch your ticket to the HOF. If that was the case I can name you 200 more that should be there! Like I said even if he hit 600 HRs no way on this earth he makes it. Case closed on this one.

You still are struggling mightily with what I have been saying. I never said I think he is a HOF'er. Simply because I asked the question does not mean so. A lot if individuals put a lot of weight on the Hall numbers that are pretty much locks. And 500 is one of those HOF monitors. And that is why I asked the question, for those who go with the HOF "lock" numbers.


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[Luke]

I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who considers 500 HRs a "lock" number anymore.

[Peter_Spaeth]

"Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth View Post
If Dunn had struck out less, he would have grounded into more double plays.

That made me laugh."

Thank you for appreciating my understated humor. Someone thought I was defending his strikeouts.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by LukeLyon

I think you'd have a hard time finding anyone who considers 500 HRs a "lock" number anymore.

Or 3000 hits, see Craig Biggio (although he will get in eventually). But if Juan Pierre gets to 3000 (he has tailed off and likely won't but a couple of years ago it was not an unreasonable possibility), I can't imagine he gets in ever. Actually Adrian Beltre looks to have a real good shot, is he a HOFer?

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

You still are struggling mightily with what I have been saying. I never said I think he is a HOF'er. Simply because I asked the question does not mean so. A lot if individuals put a lot of weight on the Hall numbers that are pretty much locks. And 500 is one of those HOF monitors. And that is why I asked the question, for those who go with the HOF "lock" numbers.


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Yes your right 500 HRs was the magic number years ago when baseball was normal. Its not anymore with the advent of PEDs I would find it very hard to put any of those other 500+ HR hitters (users )in the Hall!
Getting back to Mr Dunn the question you asked is " Is he a HOFer" and the answer is No. You cant put a guy who hits the Mendoza line every year and strikes out more times than my blind Grandmother.