Gonzalez and Wren must go...

[KCRfan1]

I tend to agree with the others that the manager will make little difference, it's the talent on the field that wins the games. The 82 Brewers could hit the ball, however their weakness was the starting rotation. Offense will win games, pitching will win championships. Fingers is a relief pitcher, and most if not all clubs have a very good closer. Pete won 18 games, 3.3 something era, yet after that those starters were rough. I believe Caldwell had an era of 3.9 or so, the other 3 had era's in the 4's with one pushing close to 5. That team was pure offense and carried the Brewers staff.

[HRBAKER]

Good team, their biggest problems were Darrell Porter and Willie McGee in the end.

[CMIZ5290]

My God the Braves suck so bad...Get rid of these two idiots....

[clydepepper]

Braves fired GM Frank Wren today. I am on board with firing of the entire coaching staff with the exception of Pitching Coach Roger McDowell.

I've never been a fan of Terry Pendleton and co-hitting coaches Greg Walker and Scott Fletcher have been unable to get the results justifying their retention.

With a September crash worse than that in 2011, Freddie Gonzales, while being hand-picked by Bobby Cox, does not seem to be able to motivate improvement.

Further, they must find a way to unload B.J. Upton without risking the alienation of his brother Justin or the other young core players.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Braves fired GM Frank Wren today. I am on board with firing of the entire coaching staff with the exception of Pitching Coach Roger McDowell.

I've never been a fan of Terry Pendleton and co-hitting coaches Greg Walker and Scott Fletcher have been unable to get the results justifying their retention.

With a September crash worse than that in 2011, Freddie Gonzales, while being hand-picked by Bobby Cox, does not seem to be able to motivate improvement.

Further, they must find a way to unload B.J. Upton without risking the alienation of his brother Justin or the other young core players.

+1...I agree, this entire coaching staff is a joke. If I were John S., I would actually seek out some of the past Brave players who were great leaders (Murphy, Glavine, Smoltz etc...) They need a complete enema big time...