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Old 08-27-2014, 03:37 PM
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Barry - I had no idea that they paper was the same that was in the guides. Your poster was so nice that it looked like it was printed on some sort of special stock.

Kashmanian actually has two different posters pictured in his book. One takes up a full page while the other's picture is much smaller, so it is easy to miss. It is interesting that each of his have Peck & Snyder advertising on them with different addresses: 105 Nassau (which would date it 1868 or before) and 126 Nassau St., (which would date it at 1869 or after). Yours came from the 1869 Guide, which if my research is correct, would have had the 22 Ann St. address if it had the Peck & Snyder advertising.

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Mine did not say Peck and Snyder on it, but if I remember my history (and I do forget things) Chadwick published the guide until 1868, then P & S bought it in 1869. Does that sound correct?

And yes, the paper was incredibly thin and low quality stock. I guess the posters were not made to last very long.
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Barry - Haney & Co. Publishers published the guide from 1866 until 1868 and then Peck & Snyder Publishers took over in 1869 and continued until 1872. Chadwick was the editor for the entire time. Somewhere in 1869 advertisements changed from calling it "Haney's Base Ball Book of Reference" to Chadwick's "The Base Ball Players' Book of Reference" - note the exclusion of the word "Haney's" and the inclusion of the word "Players'" in the title. Obviously, the title with reference to "Haney's" preceded the other.

BTW, I have no idea where Kashmanian's supplements originated - I assume from one of the guides also, but they make no mention of the "Base Ball Player's Book of Reference" like yours did. Then again, if you had not actually taken your supplement out of a 1869 guide, then we probably would have never known where it actually came from.

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Thanks Kevin for the clarification. I knew there was an ownership change in 1869, but got some of my facts wrong. I agree that without taking the poster out of the book myself, it would be difficult to know its origin. It did have all the very visible folds in it, so one could have certainly guessed it was placed inside the cover of a book.

But here's one other thing I vaguely remember: Somewhere in the back of the Haney Guide, among the black and white advertisements, was mention of a color supplement that was included. However, you would have had to have seen that to make the connection. Some detective work would be necessary to connect a loose poster to the guide, but it could be done.
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