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Old 08-18-2014, 07:14 AM
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Default Food for thought

Is the item from the pre-war era? Yes

Is it counterfeit? NO

While no real value, this is still an inexpensive way to get an item of a major superstar from before 1920.

Look, I'm not a big fan of grading these these and calling them cards but in some ways, isn't this the same as cutting old ads out of life magazine because they feature famous people.

The item is protected and looks nice for a person. While none of us would buy this --- isn't this actually in some ways a good thing to introduce people into this era and then we can hopefully move some of them to real material

What would YOU Rather have if you are not really a major collector -- a beat up T206 common of Larry Doyle or a period page with a photo of 1st ballot HOFer Tyrus Raymond Cobb. I'd bet more people would take the Cobb then the Doyle.

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Old 08-18-2014, 07:39 AM
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That is a good point. And it's the sort of thing I'd have bought when I was starting out (Of course back then I could get a real T206 HOFer for around $10 but was silly enough not to buy them. )

If it was just a page being sold as a page, hopefully with signs like loads of edge wear that indicated a trashed copy of the guide I think more of us would be ok with it.
At least then it could be matted and framed, which would make a nice little display piece.

But sold as a "card" in a bogus slab and trimmed tight to the borders? That's just a bit too scammy.

And $43 will buy a nice big reproduction of a more iconic pose - In fact, it will buy a few of them
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ty-Cobb-5-Ph...item1e7b65d1f6

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Old 08-18-2014, 07:54 AM
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Is the item from the pre-war era? Yes

Is it counterfeit? NO

While no real value, this is still an inexpensive way to get an item of a major superstar from before 1920.

Look, I'm not a big fan of grading these these and calling them cards but in some ways, isn't this the same as cutting old ads out of life magazine because they feature famous people.

The item is protected and looks nice for a person. While none of us would buy this --- isn't this actually in some ways a good thing to introduce people into this era and then we can hopefully move some of them to real material

What would YOU Rather have if you are not really a major collector -- a beat up T206 common of Larry Doyle or a period page with a photo of 1st ballot HOFer Tyrus Raymond Cobb. I'd bet more people would take the Cobb then the Doyle.

Rich
I have bought paper cut outs and have no issue with them. The issue I have is with the lack of transparency and deceit.
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Old 08-18-2014, 12:29 PM
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The issue I have is with the lack of transparency and deceit.
+1 in a nutshell
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