OT....now this is a comic book!! The Holy Grail....

[DHogan]

Originally Posted by tschock

I want to crack it out of the slab to be able to read it.

Or crack it out and try for a 10 !

[robw1959]

Originally Posted by DHogan

Or crack it out and try for a 10 !

I don't think it would earn a 10 with a 1/2" tear on the back page! Really, I'm surprised that it even earned a 9.0 with such a visible defect. I inquired to be sure I wasn't seeing things and the seller replied by telling me that the comic book had been torn at the factory. So I guess in the world of comic book grading a factory-produced tear is equivalent to a printing defect? I suppose if that rip was owner-induced it would have graded lower. Sheesh!

[ramram]

As Kramer would say - "I'm out!"

[clydepepper]

Our 'native bias' aside, anyone want to share their feelings on which is the greater 'Holy Grail' - this Comic Book or the Gretsky Wagner?

I don't know how many original copies of the Comic Book have survived and I've heard at least four different totals for the Wagner. Input Requested.

The Gretsky Wagner card has long been assumed to be, by far, the Wagner in the best condition, but we have already heard of one Comic Book that may be better than this one.

The Wagner is 27-29 years older. Aside from that, what are your opinions?

[tschock]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Our 'native bias' aside, anyone want to share their feelings on which is the greater 'Holy Grail' - this Comic Book or the Gretsky Wagner?

I don't know how many original copies of the Comic Book have survived and I've heard at least four different totals for the Wagner. Input Requested.

The Gretsky Wagner card has long been assumed to be, by far, the Wagner in the best condition, but we have already heard of one Comic Book that may be better than this one.

The Wagner is 27-29 years older. Aside from that, what are your opinions?

Depends on how you look at it. Action #1 had a HUGE impact on comic books in general, and super-hero comics in particular. To say there wouldn't be super-hero comics without Action #1 is a bit of a stretch (like saying there wouldn't be PCs without IBM or MS), but it did effectively jump-start the genre, which in turn jump-started the huge wave of comics in general. Right comic at the right time. Anywhere in the world you could easily find someone who knows who Superman is. Action #1 had a bigger impact to the overall culture.

No one could reasonably see the Wagner card (or Wagner) causing the same impact.

Now if you are talking specifically about COLLECTING, that's open for debate.

So I would offer that those card collectors seeing the Wagner as a "holy grail" rather than a copy of Action #1 are more "collecting niche nerds" than comic collectors.

[GoldenAge50s]

It really is quite simple.

While card collectors think of the Wagner as the "holy grail" of the hobby, comic book folk consider Action #1 in the same way. I find it interesting that 1 of the best known examples of each sell in the same $2 million plus range.