Issue with Probstein (and nothing to do with Shill Bidding)

[AddieJoss]

Update and clarification:

Clarification portion: Over the last 7+ weeks! before posting on here! I did call Rick twice and sent several messages and I was being dismissed. I realized I was not getting my cards back unless I went there (I didn't want to and found the suggestion lunacy). I did provide some of the auction numbers (and he didn't seem to have an internal system), but that doesn't help because it does not seem like they are in that type of order and became commingled with other cards. For the record, I never felt Rick was "stealing the cards", he just didn't know which were mine anymore and didn't try to figure it out. I/he assumed he would eventually make good, but that was too long for my liking, especially without replies to the most recent emails.

Update:
After posting, a fellow board member reached out to Rick to inform him that until this was resolved he would not bid on more of Rick's auctions. I thank this board member for this because this motivated Rick to resolve this. The resolution was: he sent me the 1963 cards that were mine, the 1967 cards that were mine and some extra 1967 cards that initially weren't mine, in lieu of the other years cards that were mine which he didn't/couldn't find.


Conclusion: I am content that I get back close to what was mine (maybe better, maybe worse (I'm selling anyway)). I am glad another board member assisted. I don't feel Rick is stealing cards, but has a large room for improvement with customer service and organization. This is simply my tale, others have better and worse.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I am glad you got your cards back and kudos to the person who reached out for you. The troubling thing I still don't understand is why you would reach out to the board to alert others to your problem then defend him in the end. To me, it sounds like without the help of a big brother nothing would have happened and your cards would have been gone (or not stolen as you say). Bottom line I guess is I am glad you have your cards back.

[AddieJoss]

Jason, I appreciate the reply. I don't think I am "defending" him. The board absolutely helped me get closure. I just feel it was not "criminal" and more "mess-up" combined with poor customer service. I'm just being fair in my assessment. And at the end of the day I did get approx value back and most were my original cards (although with frustration and aggravation).

[1880nonsports]

used in a sentence before. Well done.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by AddieJoss

The resolution was: he sent me the 1963 cards that were mine, the 1967 cards that were mine and some extra 1967 cards that initially weren't mine, in lieu of the other years cards that were mine which he didn't/couldn't find.

Doesn't it make you wonder where he got the "extra" 1967 cards though? Did he rob Peter to pay Paul?

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Doesn't it make you wonder where he got the "extra" 1967 cards though? Did he rob Peter to pay Paul?

Let's go hunt some witches.

[Runscott]

...how many ostriches does it take to find a witch?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Runscott

...how many ostriches does it take to find a witch?

Too funny.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

Nothing...

With all the fraud in our hobby being brought to light….having that thought or concern cross one’s mind seems far from crazy. Now if you said aliens from area 51 were taking the cards off world…I would agree that’s crazy everyone knows aliens hate baseball.

That's what they want us to think, John. But would you really be shocked to learn that E.T. was the one hoarding Titus T206s?

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Let's go hunt some witches.

That's a fat duck.

[pcoz]

I've dealt with Rick in the past with consignments & bidding in his auctions, & always found him to be spot on with me. No shenanigans with any left handed bidding practices in any auctions that I've seen. Everyone will have their own experiences, but I'm sure I'll do business with him again in the future.