1952 Topps House yellow tiger

[cammb]

Reading the threads makes me wonder when this insanity will stop. Its a printing error period. it should be no more valuable than the original. You can find a multitude of such errors on every logo in the set. Because one person says its valuable, must we all drink the kool aid. You can have all of this bulls---. missing colors, border, backward stitching and the like. Fools and their money are soon parted

[Republicaninmass]

Good, I'll buy yours at the price of the original, you don't happen to have any do you?

[Brianruns10]

Originally Posted by cammb

Reading the threads makes me wonder when this insanity will stop. Its a printing error period. it should be no more valuable than the original. You can find a multitude of such errors on every logo in the set. Because one person says its valuable, must we all drink the kool aid. You can have all of this bulls---. missing colors, border, backward stitching and the like. Fools and their money are soon parted

Now stop right there. I respect your opinion on error cards, but don't you call me or anyone else foolish because we add them to our collections.

This isn't about ignorance. We KNOW these cards are errors. Of course Topps ddn't intend to leave off the orange, or to give Campos that black star, or to swap Sain and Page's bios. But it happened, and they're scarce and people want them for their sets. It's all about supply and demand. Low supply, high demand. I for one took the opportunity to buy one now, not because I'm some speculator trying to make a buck, but because I believe this card WILL be tougher to get. I believe it'll be recognized by the graders as a legit variety, and when that happens, a lot more people will be interested. Frankly I feel I bought this card as a low based upon what it can do.

But that's just me. NO one's holding a gun to your head telling you you must recognize these cards and collect them. If you don't like them, don't buy them.

But DON'T insult me or anyone else here because of what we choose to collect. It's rude and it's infantile, and it's the sort of vitriol more suited to that pair of scamsters still trying to sell their phony Honus Wagner.

[cammb]

If you were insulted by the truth then that's your problem. I have a few boston braves cards that are missing some color in. The bonnet. I will sell you three for $900, then I can create my own error card and make a lot of money.

Ted, if I had this so called error House card I would gladly sell it to you for $400. I would be a fool not to make some money .

[glynparson]

It is the truth as you see, please don't ever tell me how to spend my money. It is my business not yours. Most people think any amount we spend on cardboard is foolish. So to the general public you are as a big a jackass as any of us variation collectors. How about some pics maybe one of us will buy it from you, even with that pathetic sales pitch you made.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by cammb

Reading the threads makes me wonder when this insanity will stop. Its a printing error period. it should be no more valuable than the original. You can find a multitude of such errors on every logo in the set. Because one person says its valuable, must we all drink the kool aid. You can have all of this bulls---. missing colors, border, backward stitching and the like. Fools and their money are soon parted

I completely understand your opinion. I am one of those fools who pay a premium for print errors but at least I am not one of those fools that actually pay huge premiums for a card in a plastic holder, those are the real fools. I do really mean that but I am also smart enough to know that several members do like plastic holders with the cute little # on them. So I do not come on here and make an ass out of my self talking crap about what someone collects because any BB card collecting is good collecting as long as you enjoy it.

Please post pictures and prices of these so called junk error cards you have in the appropriate B/S/T section and one of us fools might just buy them.

[cammb]

That pathetic sales pitch was said tongue in cheek. I suggest you grow another layer of skin. Lets put this to bed. I say you are foolish to spend that kind of money on obvious printing flaws. The cards are imperfections and technically should be destroyed. You say mind you own business on how I spend my money. There, that says it all.

[glynparson]

Stupid as you come across in your posts? Guess we should've thrown away those upside down airplane stamps too. Your logic is highly flawed and does not track even through other fields of collectibles. My skin is thick enough I'm just willing to call a jackass a jackass.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Stupid as you come across in your posts? Guess we should've thrown away those upside down airplane stamps too. Your logic is highly flawed and does not track even through other fields of collectibles. My skin is thick enough I'm just willing to call a jackass a jackass.

You're a real computer tough guy hiding behind you little laptop calling names like a real pansy.

[autograf]

It's kind of like the same issue with T206's. I wouldn't pay the exorbitant prices for a printing flaw there nor would I pay (for any issue) a huge premium to get a PSA9 card from one of those sets. Neither are my collecting goals. Other people's take on collecting things is slanted differently than mine and that's okay by me. I look at every Campos that I see VERY closely. I look for 1958 Herrera/Herrer. I would be glad to find one and sell one of either--or the House variation. I think there's room enough for all of us under the tent. As long as at least a couple people collect some type of angle on the hobby, prices for cards that fit that bill will continue to escalate......JMO

[steve B]

Ah yes. The old "It's crap unless I'm selling it"

That's sooooo 1990.

In stamps, I've made a nice bit of spending money spotting the same sort of "junk" usually in the inventory of a dealer who thinks it's BS. And back In the day I picked up some less than common cards for the same reason. Moderately harder backs for T206.... Bah! Only dummies would pay more for those. Sadly those guys never got the really tough stuff, just the mid range. Probably because a lot with any really good backs got better offers from dealers with a clue.


Steve B

[Footballdude]

I am also a card collector with a stamp collecting background. Errors and variations have been a part of the stamp world since stamp collecting started over 150 years ago. There are dealers and collectors who specialize in this sort of thing and spend their lifetimes pursuing them. Some of them wind up writing books, and other reference works, detailing them.

So far I haven't seen card collecting get quite as involved as stamps, but I do see it slowly changing in that direction, which I think is awesome.

I see nothing wrong with adding interesting varieties of cards, errors, miscuts, whatever to a collection, to spice it up. I actually find the whole printing process fascinating and would, if I had the money, buy nothing but pre-production items like proofs, uncut sheets, original photos, etc.. These tell the story of how a card set was produced. The errors and variations are a part of that card sets' history.

True, Topps' quality control left something to be desired back in the day, but I am pretty sure they weren't too concerned with future collectors opinions of what they should be discarding. I am glad the let get by everything they did. If the quality then was as nice and uniform as it is now, it would really make them boring to collect, which is one reason why I don't collect modern cards.

Everyone can collect what they like, how they like, and spend what they want. That's what makes a hobby like this interesting, because there is no right or wrong way to collect. There is room for everyone.

Cards, in any form, have no real value other than what someone is willing to pay, period.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by autograf

It's kind of like the same issue with T206's. I wouldn't pay the exorbitant prices for a printing flaw there nor would I pay (for any issue) a huge premium to get a PSA9 card from one of those sets. Neither are my collecting goals. Other people's take on collecting things is slanted differently than mine and that's okay by me. I look at every Campos that I see VERY closely. I look for 1958 Herrera/Herrer. I would be glad to find one and sell one of either--or the House variation. I think there's room enough for all of us under the tent. As long as at least a couple people collect some type of angle on the hobby, prices for cards that fit that bill will continue to escalate......JMO

Well said, Tom. By the way, I am pretty sure that SGC removed the Herrara error from their registry.

[Brianruns10]

For what it's worth, I admire anyone who has found a passion with something to collect. For example, cards with registration errors. That's not something that I would personally collect, but I think it's great that there are people out there who derive joy from collecting those one of a kind freaks of nature. Whether you spend $1 or a $1000 on a card, if you love doing it, what's the foul? There's no right or wrong way to collect.

[cammb]

Brian, you are a 100% correct. Now that should be the end of this, I hope. LOL