SGC vs PSA , cards with qualifiers

[Rollingstone206]

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[freakhappy]

I don't hate qualifiers, but I do have a beef with them since not everyone knows what they equal in terms of "real grade". I couldn't tell you how many times I have seen a card(s) for sale in a PSA 8(MC) holder that is being listed as the same selling price as a PSA 8 without the qualifier. Sometimes it seems like qualifiers are a loophole for sellers to dupe buyers that are uninformed on the subject. I realize that anyone in this hobby should get informed on anything that they are looking to buy or sell, but I'm just being realistic on the matter.

As far as a PSA 9(MC) equals a PSA 7 without the qualifier...well, that just isn't correct. I know some people believe the rule is 2-3 grades lower on an adjusted qualifier to no qualifier, but any card with an (MK, mark) qualifier, the adjusted real grade would be much much lower than a few grades if it were a NM or Mint grade.

[homerunhitter]

Do vintage topps cards in PSA slabs with a qualifier sell decently or are they frowned upon by collectors?

[refz]

I do not line qualifiers, I feel a MC or MK to a certain extent should fall into a certain grade range. On the other end I hate how sgc treats erasure labeling as altered. It should be a 1.5 or 2 or whatever depending on appeal

[JustinD]

Not a fan of qualifiers in the least and happy they seem to be going away. I am one who stays away as well. If it has a grade it should be a true grade and not a “if it wasn’t for this issue” imaginary grade. I find it as annoying as BCCG grading.

I love the honesty and clarity of an authentic or altered grade and have both in my collection. I don’t have a single qualified card as I have cracked any that may have come in. I would rather have it in a one touch.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Qualifiers vs lower grade with no qualifiers..makes no difference to me. I buy the card, not the grade.

[JollyElm]

For me, it always comes down to a simple reason.

Since the most often used/discussed (I assume) qualifier is the OC, let me present this.

Here are a pair of nearly identical cards, one being a PSA 8 OC and the other being a straight PSA 6.

• The one with the OC is entirely more 'accurate' to me, because the label intimates, "This card has all of the attributes of a PSA 8 card, BUT it is off-centered.
• However, since the PSA 6 has the same type of bad centering, it's nearly impossible to see it and know that it was 'lowered' to a PSA 6, BECAUSE it's off-centered.
It is much more likely that a person looking at it will think it is a PSA 6 THAT IS ALSO badly off-centered...and in essence nothing but a PSA 4 (value-wise).


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[Leon]

Originally Posted by BobbyStrawberry

Qualifiers vs lower grade with no qualifiers..makes no difference to me. I buy the card, not the grade.

I am in this camp. I don't have many altered cards though (at least graded that way, who really knows?)

My favorite MK qualifier is a tiny erased mark, with only the indention left, on a blank back. Think '21 Exhibit Ruth (I don't own one yet).....would be a 1 to 1.5 with said erased mark, but could otherwise be a 3-4.
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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Not a fan of qualifiers in the least and happy they seem to be going away. I am one who stays away as well. If it has a grade it should be a true grade and not a “if it wasn’t for this issue” imaginary grade. I find it as annoying as BCCG grading.

I love the honesty and clarity of an authentic or altered grade and have both in my collection. I don’t have a single qualified card as I have cracked any that may have come in. I would rather have it in a one touch.

I am in this camp. I don't want a fake grade "IF" the card didn't have the very obvious problem it does have. I avoid them like the plague and think they are overpriced even at the low prices they get.

With qualifiers every card in my collection is a GEM MINT 10 including the ones that look like I left them in a puddle of muddy water. Qualifiers just seems WAY beyond silly to me.