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Old 08-05-2014, 09:42 PM
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Keith--the government doesn't "cease", they "seize". Are you sure you're not a lawyer?
Jay -- "the government" is an it, not a they.
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:47 PM
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With what we have in Washington now i think "they" is appropriate, although if you will spot me an "sh" I will go along with you.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...811-story.html

Why not have two threads up at the top, hopefully Jeff wont mind if so we can discuss over dinner...just talk into my tie Jeff very clearly.
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Why not have two threads up at the top, hopefully Jeff wont mind if so we can discuss over dinner...just talk into my tie Jeff very clearly.

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Why not have two threads up at the top, hopefully Jeff wont mind if so we can discuss over dinner...just talk into my tie Jeff very clearly.
What's better than stealing from all your hobby friends and then ratting out all your hobby friends -- obstructing justice too!
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What's better than stealing from all your hobby friends and then ratting out all your hobby friends -- obstructing justice too!
So funny. Sad but funny.

Guess I know a Plank that will need reviewed again soon. Just remember.





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More Mastro hits...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=89841
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Here's a good one. Lots of smart people chiming in here:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...light=plancich
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So funny. Sad but funny.

Guess I know a Plank that will need reviewed again soon. Just remember.





http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...entoryid=35826

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I asked in the other thread, when I mentioned the PSA 6 Plank, if anyone thinks this will affect PSA. Let me rephrase this, does anyone think that PSA will have a rollover investigation from the FBI considering the cards Mastro and Co. are now admitting to altering are in PSA holders?

It seems to me that if the Noe investigation led to the Mastro investigation (as is mentioned in one of the threads) that then led to Allen and Rodgers, wouldn't the next logical step be an investigation into PSA especially considering it is a publicly held company?

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I asked in the other thread, when I mentioned the PSA 6 Plank, if anyone thinks this will affect PSA. Let me rephrase this, does anyone think that PSA will have a rollover investigation from the FBI considering the cards Mastro and Co. are now admitting to altering are in PSA holders?

It seems to me that if the Noe investigation led to the Mastro investigation (as is mentioned in one of the threads) that then led to Allen and Rodgers, wouldn't the next logical step be an investigation into PSA especially considering it is a publicly held company?

These are good questions and it's very disturbing that some of these cards were holdered.

There likely several problems. One problem is the statute of limitations since a lot of this happened more than five years ago. The other problem is proving that PSA intentionally graded doctored cards and that will be difficult since that would require someone admitting that bad cards were deliberately graded. PSA's obvious defense will be incompetence.

On the other hand, it would be interesting to see Mastro's submission records to PSA and same goes with some of these consignors who submitted cards to PSA like the Plank PSA 6 that ended up in Mastro Auctions. Obviously these submissions now need to be rigorously scrutinized and the bad cards need to be bought back by PSA.
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