Topps 1968 Milton Bradley set

[ALR-bishop]

Carlton those card oddities are great

Richard-- I agree with Carlton, there are no Cox or Brinkman variations to the regular 68 set, just the MB versions. And the MB set should in it's entirety be viewed as a variation to the regular 68 set. PSA , unlike SCD, was a long time recognizing the 62 greenies as variations, but the separate printing of them is similar to the MB separate printing

[4reals]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Carlton those card oddities are great

I agree, great variations Carlton, very cool!

[savedfrommyspokes]

Richard, a thank you from me also for your list of variations.....between you, Carlton and several others here on net54, all of you have helped my variation collection flourish.

I have not openly sold a BB MB card in years, as before I started this set myself, Carlton was the recipient of my BB MB cards. However, I have sold some of the MB FB cards over the years...my recollection is that they have basically sold for twice what the same regular issue card would have sold for. The cards I sold were all ungraded, so there were no pops to worry about.

Here are some of the closed sales on ebay for 67 MB football:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_saca...H_Sold=1&rt=nc

For 68 MB baseball:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...adley&_sacat=0

[ALR-bishop]

I just finished updating my 1959 and 1960 sets to include cards 199-286 (1959) and cards 375- 440( 1960) in both gray and white back. Have not decided whether to do the same for 1953 ( 86-165 ), 1956 ( 1-180)....let alone 1952 (131-190)and 1954 ( 1-50)

I guess if SCD did not list the MBs as a separate set, but instead treated them like the above back differences, or the 62 greenie fronts, they would list the Cox and Brinkman cards as variations, like they do now, but drop the separate listing for the set and just note, like they do for the above set, that certain cards in the set can be found with different backs

But if they did that, they would have to contend with the different backs in the latter series. That would get pretty complicated. If the MBs are added to a master set list for 1968, would that mean you would have to list the alternate latter series backs as well

I think the 1991 Topps sets can be finished with 3 or 4 different backs. Including the Desert Shield set it would seem to have more variant cards than any other Topps set

[steve B]

1991 backs.

Dark logo - not the full set. Only certain sheets
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no reaction to UV
Glows reddish orange
Regular logo - Full set
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No reaction to UV
Glows reddish orange


Misc backs - Not enough info to be sure how many there are.
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Cardstock reacts to UV, typically a light bluish glow. - Possibly different cardstock, possibly a bad batch of paper, or contamination from something.

Ink reacts as a very dark red. - Requires a fairly powerful UV light to make it easily visible

Other contrast differences that are really hard to pin down. Most I attribute to plate wear or different levels of inking.


There are front UV differences as well. But I haven't studied them enough to say anything more than they exist. Like some have a clearcoat that reacts a very light green to UV.

So four backs for sure, possibly eight if the reactive paper comes all four ways, and up to 12 if the dark red comes with reactive paper and light or dark logos.

The desert shield should only come one way. But..........It's Topps so maybe not. (I only have a few, 3? 5? I forget)

Steve B

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by steve B

The desert shield should only come one way. But..........It's Topps so maybe not. (I only have a few, 3? 5? I forget)

Steve, with many of the DS cards out there currently that are non-legit or "counterfeited", could the few you have that come up different be some of the non-legit DS cards?

If so, this could be a way to help distinguish between legit and some of the non-legit DS cards. With as few of the DS cards produced (5000 sets?), you would think the print run would have likely been on the same type of sheets.

[ALR-bishop]

Did not mean to sidetrack the MB thread with my reference to 1991. Only was trying to point out the complications of making large chunks of back differences part of master sets

There is prior a thread on DS cards and ways of using backs to distinguish them in the post 80 section. I will try to dig it up