Real DiMaggio Autograph ?

[GrayGhost]

Not really totally confident, but would lean toward "that's good"

[shelly]

It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you.

[mds308]

My name is Michael.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by shelly

It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you.

Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Uh oh... The "Advice Nazi" strikes again. "No advice for you!"

Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?

[mds308]

All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by mds308

All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

You already got your answer over here, Michael, didn't you.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...joe-difauxggio

[toyman55]

Originally Posted by mds308

All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

I have been on this forum now for 4 years and though I am not bothered by the banter, bickering and insults thrown around on some of the forum discussions I am disturbed when what I find a Anti Semitic remark is made. I am Jewish as well though my family came here at the turn of the century from Russia to escape killing of Jews by the pogroms. Many of my friends parents were lucky to survive the Nazi camps thankfully but many more were killed. I would not ask David for an apology, He has been a great help to me as well as others on autographs. It is up to him if he feels it be appropriate. As far as Michael is concerned and I have learned this the hard way, you need to disclose all you can about your item including if you have had others look at it and give an opinion. Lets please avoid any remarks here that attach someone personally. Attack them for being ignorant, naive, or for lying if that is what makes you feel better.
Last, Thank you Leon for such a great forum we all enjoy.

[RichardSimon]

Shale,
David has insisted on attacking Shelly personally. That is the only personal attack I have seen on this thread due to Chris posting it, as I have David on a block to avoid seeing his usual personal attacks which are usually directed toward Shelly and/or Chris.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by mds308

All I wanted was some advice on the ball and with the exception of one person all I'm getting is useless comments. As for the Nazi comment, I have a very Jewish last name and I DID NOT find the Seinfeld reference comment offensive. Just useless and humorless. What a great first impression for my first post.

We've been labeled 'useless' by the 6-post guy twice in one post. I think that's a new record. Not to defend anything anyone has done in your thread, but if it were me, I'd read a few threads of similar ilk before posting. You'll find that there are about, oh...a gazillion threads asking if items signed by DiMaggio, Ruth, Mantle, Koufax, etc., are real. Such threads could give you an idea of how to walk about in here, and what to expect. You would find that we've had a lot of new guys asking such questions and the responses were not always real nice, and the reactions to civil responses were not always very respectful (We frequently give free advice and get our asses kicked for it). Also keep in mind that it's an internet forum, so while it's probably the best one (in the entire internet, including Canada), you are guaranteed to have to read lots of crap, even in your own thread that you personally started, where you would like to rule exactly how everyone responds.

In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by Runscott

In fact, I bet I get a wrist-slap from someone for this post, and that's fine.

..and welcome.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Are you aware of Shelly's family history in Europe?

Your "Advice Nazi" was an inappropriate choice of words.

By the way, Mr. Atkatz, what is your opinion on the Joe DiMaggio?

Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

[David Atkatz]

Just saw your post, Shale. I'm sorry if I offended you, but, really, offended by a play on Seinfeld's Soup Nazi? I always thought we Jews--especially those of Eastern European descent--had a sense of humor.
I hope you'll read what I (a Lidvock/Polish Jew, and very proud of it) posted above.

[mds308]

Shelly,

Thank you. This was all I asked for.

David,

Russian, Romanian & Polish (and as Cartman from South Park would say) J-O-O.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Chris, as the OP said, there was nothing inappropriate about the Seinfeld reference. I'm sure that Seinfeld, and Larry David, and every other Jew associated with that show lost relatives in the Holocaust, too

As did I. The name "Atkatz" is a bastardization of the name of a town in Lithuania. That town no longer exists. Wanna guess where it went? On my other side, my maternal grandfather, Isadore Horowitz, came here from Lodz, Poland. Ever hear of the Lodz Ghetto? I don't think the Horowitzs left behind fared too well.

I've enjoyed getting along with you lately, Chris, and I'd like to keep it that way. So, to reiterate, there was nothing inappropriate about what I said.

My opinion on the DiMaggio is not relevant. I'm no expert on DiMaggio, so my opinion would be worthless.

I'm Jewish too and I wasn't offended in the least about the "Autograph Nazi" remark. I thought it was funny. Werdesheims, Bercovich's & Horkheimers OH MY. With a name like Tapia? Go Figure. Shelly has thick skin and it's ok to bust balls once in a while.

Oh, and the Dimaggio is authentic and faded worth about 150-180 IMHO

[packs]

Sometimes this forum gets a little too "Nick The Computer Guy"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKL6RM8hsY

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by shelly

It would be nice if you posted your name. Is is also nice to know that you have nothing to lose and everything to gain at no cost to you.

Shelly,
You have stated several times that you will no longer offer your autograph expertise to anyone that hasn't been a member for one (or two, or five, whatever) years. I would respectively submit that adhering to that decision would be preferable to what you have been doing lately with unsuspecting newcomers.

While anyone may be subject to some scrutiny (and some deservedly so), I think that a few questions with an attitude of 'help first' would serve us all better.

[shelly]

Not a problem. You take it from here. Remember there just babes in the woods. You can help them all you want.