68T Bill Stoneman variation

[JollyElm]

Whoops…here's a slightly better look at the 'hairline'…
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[goheels]

...by a long time Cubs collector I messaged yesterday. He has been looking for this as long as I have.

He brings up a good point: Topps corrected in mid 1968 4 cards. Those would be the Lonborg/Lonberg AL Pitching #10 card and McCormick #400 WL card, both fixed during the series run. Correction of the Brinkman and Cox White Team Letters did not occur until MID year after the full print run; the team letters were properly made yellow in the Milton Bradley and Venezuela versions of the cards. This collector has never seen a Venezuelan Stoneman card. If the half sentence would have been corrected at the very end of the 2nd series run to give us a findable variation, then you should expect that it would have been corrected on the Venezuelan back.

I went back tonight and looked again at all of my Stoneman Milton Bradley cards. None have the corrected version. These were produced around late May or early June.

Several years ago I checked out a card shop in the North Chicago area--this guy had about 100 1968 Stonemans. I found nothing there.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Carlton, not sure if you regularly check COMC, but of the 20 68 #179s they have listed, none are the corrected version. I had 7 copies total, and none were the corrected version. Like you, I would like to see a scan of the back also. Surprised Al does not have a copy of the infamous corrected #179???

[goheels]

If Al doesn't have it or hasn't seen it then it likely doesn't exist.

I went back and looked at all 24 of my Milton Bradley 1968 AL #10 cards. None have the Lonberg variation on the back. By scarcity I believe this was corrected in the regular 68 series about 2/5 of the way through the regular print run (by early 1968). I think the value is about 2:3 which is what I am basing my guess on.

[JollyElm]

It seems highly likely a corrected '68 Stoneman never actually existed.

To me it's reminiscent of the 1964 Topps Clemente card. Although some people's need lists include a version where his 1960 stats on back have "Pittsburgh" spelled correctly (instead of "Pittsburfh"), it has never been verified.

[goheels]

I think you are correct, Darren. If nobody on this board has one, it is very unlikely it existed.

The date of the MBs being May/June 1968 AND uncorrected puts a stamp on it, I think.

Beautiful work on the Yaz CLs. Do you think that sliver on the inset is a variation?

[JollyElm]

Originally Posted by goheels

I think you are correct, Darren. If nobody on this board has one, it is very unlikely it existed.

The date of the MBs being May/June 1968 AND uncorrected puts a stamp on it, I think.

Beautiful work on the Yaz CLs. Do you think that sliver on the inset is a variation?

I personally wouldn't call the hairline 'colorless arc' a variation, because it seems to simply be a tiny misalignment of the printing plates. Something that theoretically could happen to any card during the printing process. But to each his own!

[steve B]

The colorless arc is actually the edge of his bat.

The ones with just the sliver showing could be just the registration, or they could be an actual difference. It's almost impossible to tell from a typical scan.

I'll have to get my 68 Cl s out and see which ones I have.

Steve B