Sweet Caporal pack on EBay

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by Leon

The description says it has a 1910 over stamp on the tax stamp so that much is known. However, from what I have read. I too believe the baseball cards came in 10 count packs.

Yes Leon but I recall reading somewhere that tax stamp dates are unreliable. They were often used for a period of many years. You are certainly an expert on packaging so I will defer to you or maybe someone else can chime in.

[gnaz01]

Calling Jon C.

[pbspelly]

Still pretty cool item, but not worth $3k

[Leon]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

Yes Leon but I recall reading somewhere that tax stamp dates are unreliable. They were often used for a period of many years. You are certainly an expert on packaging so I will defer to you or maybe someone else can chime in.

I know a little about packs but don't consider myself an expert. Yes, the paper stamps themselves were definitely used for multiple years. I am talking about the ink stamp that is stamped on the paper stamp, with the date of 1910. The ink over-stamp definitely dates it correctly. However.. as said, baseball cards came in 10 count packs.

[Mountaineer1999]

Good information. Thanks guys. I couldn't afford to bid on it but thought it was a neat item. How fun would it be to open one of these packs though!!! One that actually contained the card.

[1880nonsports]

somewhere I have the first date for a "15" stamp....
worth about 75.-100. as a novelty go-with without spending 1000.+ for one with proper dating/factory/configuration.
Couple non-sport T cards possible within date frame but unsure if they found their way into 15's.
the hole in the pack is likely from a tobacco bug.

[rdwyer]

I agree with Leon. Baseball cards came in 10 count packs.

[NYHighlanderFan]

Thanks for the kind words with this pack. It sure is a gem...one of the nicest I've ever owned. For being 100 years old, as shown in the pictures, its condition is superb. Many on this forum have bought or traded some high-end cards, packets and boxes from me in the past. If anyone has any questions about it, please feel free to shoot me a message.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by NYHighlanderFan

Thanks for the kind words with this pack. It sure is a gem...one of the nicest I've ever owned. For being 100 years old, as shown in the pictures, its condition is superb. Many on this forum have bought or traded some high-end cards, packets and boxes from me in the past. If anyone has any questions about it, please feel free to shoot me a message.

Hi Joe
Can you tell us where you found information that leads you to believe there might have been a T205 or T206 in this pack as your description on ebay says?

[NYHighlanderFan]

Sure! The combination of the pack factory and stamp is eye-opening and intriguing to say the least. I would say those are the only two attributes the pack itself is saying.

But I come from the belief that American Beauty cards were issued in packs of "8" and that is why they are narrower than others. The same gentleman who taught me about those narrow AB cards also taught me about the cards having multiple purposes, including advertising and pack stiffeners. And he mentioned the these soft packs when talking about pack stiffeners, which American Beauty also had soft packs along with Sweet Caps. This gentleman acquired the entire T206 set many, many years ago and taught me everything he knew about them, including factories and printer scarcities 25-30 years before the internet. He learned from experience. This info is just passed-on knowledge and I know this stuff can't speak for anything in particular. But the factory and date sure does...unlike the other two Sweet Caporal packs currently up for sale now with post-WWI stamps or the wrong factory. And it certainly is unlike those Piedmont "12" packs with zero chance of having anything.

We all know it is impossible to guarantee anything, especially something like this having anything inside but the cigarettes themselves. And the only way that can even be guaranteed is due to the loose tobacco. But what I can guarantee is it's a surviving beauty in really nice condition.