1914 Cracker Jack - Trimmed or not Trimmed?

[vthobby]

Knetzer: likely not trimmed

Zimmerman: BADLY and very obviously trimmed. Looks like by maybe the hedge trimmer?

mike

PS: The top border on Zimmerman looks a little like Route 66. Bumpy and dangerous!

[Jacker_ Cracks]

definitely trimmed

[scooter729]

Thanks guys - appreciate the feedback. I assumed that was the case, but just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something from not being familiar with these cards!

Scott

[GregMitch34]

Still looking for what you think grading companies allow for CJs being a little short or thin and still get a grade. Sixteenth of an inch or what?

[sniffy5]

A friend of mine that sold many of his 1914 CJ's recently told me the tale of one of his 1914's. He had a Psa 2. He cracked it and sent it to scg. They graded it as trimmed. He then sent it to Bvg and it graded a 4.5. That should let everyone know what TPG knows about 1914's. Serious inconsistency bordering on incompetence.

[Jacker_ Cracks]

Originally Posted by sniffy5

A friend of mine that sold many of his 1914 CJ's recently told me the tale of one of his 1914's. He had a Psa 2. He cracked it and sent it to scg. They graded it as trimmed. He then sent it to Bvg and it graded a 4.5. That should let everyone know what TPG knows about 1914's. Serious inconsistency bordering on incompetence.

+1 Couldn't agree more Tom..

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by sniffy5

A friend of mine that sold many of his 1914 CJ's recently told me the tale of one of his 1914's. He had a Psa 2. He cracked it and sent it to scg. They graded it as trimmed. He then sent it to Bvg and it graded a 4.5. That should let everyone know what TPG knows about 1914's. Serious inconsistency bordering on incompetence.

I don't think that BVG has any problem in assigning a grade to a trimmed card. I have seen it too many times from them. As to the original posters question, the CJ measures correctly at 2 1/4 by 3. I do not see anything that would lead me to believe the card had been trimmed.

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Still looking for what you think grading companies allow for CJs being a little short or thin and still get a grade. Sixteenth of an inch or what?

1/16" is definitely within limits and even closer to 1/8" IMO in extreme cases. If you figure for every card with fat borders there must be an opposing card(s) with short borders. My Meyers card is huge, 3/16" big both ways so that could affect 4 different cards being shorted. My Rickey was a psa 4 and measures 1/16" short and is definitely not trimmed.