The Hall of Fame of Uniform Numbers

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Jim65

Better than Bobby Orr? No chance.

I'm sorry, Jim. I was just basing that on people I've seen play. I never saw Orr play. It's like when people ask me to name the best running backs, and I say Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, etc. Invariably, I get asked "No Jim Brown?" Well, I never saw him play, so I can't comment on how good he was, unless I want to base my opinion on what other people say about him.

Of the four major sports, hockey is the one I know the least about, though I love the game. I actually like hockey more than I like basketball now.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

I'm sorry, Jim. I was just basing that on people I've seen play. I never saw Orr play. It's like when people ask me to name the best running backs, and I say Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Eric Dickerson, etc. Invariably, I get asked "No Jim Brown?" Well, I never saw him play, so I can't comment on how good he was, unless I want to base my opinion on what other people say about him.

Of the four major sports, hockey is the one I know the least about, though I love the game. I actually like hockey more than I like basketball now.

OK fair enough. I am old enough to see Orr towards the end of his career, even on bad knees, he was the greatest defenseman to play the game.

Only defenseman to lead the league in scoring and he did it twice. 8 Norris Trophys in a 12 year career. Avg 1.3 points per game for his career.

Lidstrom's best +/- in a season was +43, Orr's best was +124

[TUM301]

Originally Posted by Jim65

OK fair enough. I am old enough to see Orr towards the end of his career, even on bad knees, he was the greatest defenseman to play the game.

Only defenseman to lead the league in scoring and he did it twice. 8 Norris Trophys in a 12 year career. Avg 1.3 points per game for his career.

Lidstrom's best +/- in a season was +43, Orr's best was +124

Grew up watching Orr and the Big Bad Bruins nite in and nite out. Around new England if you ask sports fans, most being all 4 major sports fans, they`ll tell you doesn`t matter how many S bowls Brady wins, Series Papi takes, or even the untouchable Larry Bird. No athlete will ever have the impact on the team and in the N E community that Robert Gordon Orr has/had . I like to tell the youngsters, Bobby Orr was Michael Jordan before there was a Michael Jordan".

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Grew up watching Orr and the Big Bad Bruins nite in and nite out. Around new England if you ask sports fans, most being all 4 major sports fans, they`ll tell you doesn`t matter how many S bowls Brady wins, Series Papi takes, or even the untouchable Larry Bird. No athlete will ever have the impact on the team and in the N E community that Robert Gordon Orr has/had . I like to tell the youngsters, Bobby Orr was Michael Jordan before there was a Michael Jordan".

A guy is escorted into heaven by St. Peter. First thing he sees is someone skating on a pond. He asks, who's that? St. Peter replies, "That's God. He thinks he's Bobby Orr."

[CW]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Grew up watching Orr and the Big Bad Bruins nite in and nite out. Around new England if you ask sports fans, most being all 4 major sports fans, they`ll tell you doesn`t matter how many S bowls Brady wins, Series Papi takes, or even the untouchable Larry Bird. No athlete will ever have the impact on the team and in the N E community that Robert Gordon Orr has/had . I like to tell the youngsters, Bobby Orr was Michael Jordan before there was a Michael Jordan".

And he even made it into a song

(From the Tragically Hip's song Fireworks)

You said you didn't give a **** about hockey
And I never saw someone say that before
You held my hand and we walked home the long way
You were loosening my grip on Bobby Orr

[tedzan]

1929 was the 1st year the Yankees assigned uniform #'s. Here are some of the more notable names
on the 1929 team (that have not been listed yet).

#2........ Mark Koenig

#5........ Bob Meusel

#6........ Tony Lazzeri

#7........ Leo Durocher

#9........ Benny Bengough

#10...... Bill Dickey

#11...... Herb Pennock

#12...... Waite Hoyt



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[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Jim65

OK fair enough. I am old enough to see Orr towards the end of his career, even on bad knees, he was the greatest defenseman to play the game.

Only defenseman to lead the league in scoring and he did it twice. 8 Norris Trophys in a 12 year career. Avg 1.3 points per game for his career.

Lidstrom's best +/- in a season was +43, Orr's best was +124

Soooo hard to compare eras. There's absolutely zero doubt in mind that Orr, were he playing today, would not lead the league in scoring. I also have no doubt he'd get nowhere near a +124 (Konstantinov is the only guy in the last 30 years to even reach +60). That's not to try and diminish Orr, who obviously is a legend. Just that things are different now. I won't make a claim that Lidstrom is the best of all-time. But Lidstrom's 4 Cups, 6 Norris Trophies (and 3 runners-up), and 20 years as an elite player certainly put him in the top 2 or 3.

[Butch7999]

Well argued, so we'll add a third vote for Lidstrom just to stir things up.

But wait -- was our nomination of Horton for 2 not taken seriously? A deserving Hall of Famer,
and 2 is the only one of his numbers that's been retired by any of the teams for which he played...

[nolemmings]

#16 Brett Hull