Wow. E121 rarities.

VoodooChild · #1 07-01-2014, 09:45 PM

Nice pick-ups Ken! I blew my budget on the Baker but still tried to win some of the rare ones unsuccessfully. I think this thread might have hyped the auctions. The prices today for the rare ones seemed higher than the past few days. I did pick-up the Pipp Type 3. I know it's not one of the tough cards but I have a Type 4 so I'm thinking I'll try for a back run someday.

I wish I would've won more but that was fun. When's the next time you guys think we'll see a group like that for sale?

kmac32 · #2 07-01-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VoodooChild

Nice pick-ups Ken! I blew my budget on the Baker but still tried to win some of the rare ones unsuccessfully. I think this thread might have hyped the auctions. The prices today for the rare ones seemed higher than the past few days. I did pick-up the Pipp Type 3. I know it's not one of the tough cards but I have a Type 4 so I'm thinking I'll try for a back run someday.

I wish I would've won more but that was fun. When's the next time you guys think we'll see a group like that for sale?

Was definitely better than the National for me. Trying to figure out who all the bidders involved were. Definitely some aggressive bids. I spent about what it would have cost me to go to the National before I bought anything. Guess thats a good deal without the stress of travel. :-)

Brian Van Horn · #3 07-01-2014, 10:19 PM

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rhettyeakley · #4 07-01-2014, 10:20 PM

I ended up with quite a few cards although I didn't pick up a single card off the wantlist (which is pretty small). I'm not sure we will ever see that many Type 3 cards come up for sale ever again (especially not all at the same time), they are actually very hard to find. I didn't pick up many rarities but picked up a lot of the regular E121's with the tougher back... this thread definitely caused the cards to go for much more today than the first day (the Roth alone went for $800+ and isn't as tough as the O'Leary, Baker, Gaston, Rogers and some of the tougher HOFers like Hoyt and Frisch--which were pretty good deals, especially the Frisch).

Of the tough guys I ended up with "Bill" Ryan, Cecil Causey, Harry Harper, and Emil Meusel. Unfortunately I didn't "need" any of them as I already had them as Type 2's in my collection.

BTW: We should start a list of the toughest E121's with their known quantities some time. It would be very enlightening. Obviously at the top of the list would be the O'Leary and Meadows (1 currently known of each) cards followed by the Gaston (2 currently known) and then Rogers (3 confirmed at this point) and others.

Brian Van Horn · #5 07-01-2014, 10:29 PM

Where does Sallee with ball end up on the rarity category?

rhettyeakley · #6 07-01-2014, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Where does Sallee with ball end up on the rarity category?

Rare, I have not confirmed him with the Type 3 back yet but I have seen a few with the Type 2 back (including the one I own).

It appears to me that the rarest New York guys have only been found with the Type 3 back (no Type 2's have shown up yet) and that group would consist of just the following...
O'Leary
Gaston
Rogers

There are a few rare New York guys that are only known currently as Type 2's (this list was much larger prior to this collection that just ended)...
Phil Douglas
Roger Peckinpaugh (name correct)
Slim Sallee (non-E135 pose--ie "with background")
Frank Snyder

brianp-beme · #7 07-01-2014, 11:02 PM

I figured Rhett would be on top of this like a hawk...it was an extended three day fest of previously unknown backs. Did the confirmed type 3 list almost double in size?

Hopefully Rhett you ended up with some for your collection...the chronicler deserves to reap some of the spoils. I, on the other, didn't win a single significant lot...just one ho-hum Type one back common.

Brian

rhettyeakley · #8 07-01-2014, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I figured Rhett would be on top of this like a hawk...it was an extended three day fest of previously unknown backs. Did the confirmed type 3 list almost double in size?

Hopefully Rhett you ended up with some for your collection...the chronicler deserves to reap some of the spoils. I, on the other, didn't win a single significant lot...just one ho-hum Type one back common.

Brian

Brian, the Type 3 back list did almost double in size (that shows how tough this back actually is/was) I was at 42 confirmed prior to the ebay sale (now up to 75). I picked up quite a few Type 3's from the group and after this collection I will have 48 different in my collection (my total was 27 before) along with (34) Type 2's and (4) Type 4's.

rhettyeakley · #9 07-01-2014, 10:40 PM

Also, just wanted to point out that with this group and the ones I have studied previously I have now confirmed the existence of 75 cards with the Type 3 back. Assuming they issued 80 cards with that back (which may not be the case) there may only be a handful of "likelies" to add to the checklist in the future although we all can dream that some day the "other" Coach card of Burkett surfaces although I feel the most likely candidates for future discovery are Ross Youngs and Lou DeVormer (as they were later added to the E121-120 set).

My spreadsheet shows the following totals for the tough backs...

Type 2: 69 different confirmed
Type 3: 75 different confirmed
Type 4: 9 different confirmed