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[t206hound]

Originally Posted by Leon

NO, it doesn't concretely exist.
Again, I just feel you are being divisive, as usual. The s/w has the ability to be programmed, by the provider only, to do whatever an auction house wants. It DOES NOT exist with the B and L software.

I'd hazard to guess that there is not a separate version of software (code) for each client of SAS. It's a very high probability that there is just specific configuration for each client that controls the look/feel and feature set required by that client. In Leon's statement "the s/w has the ability to be programmed" more accurately should read "the s/w has the ability to be configured." There is a subtle, but important, distinction.

If that is the case, then the software (code) is the same regardless of the configuration. Therefore, there is deployed code that does allow for a user (administrator as it was mentioned) to see max bids. While configuration at the client level may not allow that feature to be utilized, it still exists. By virtue of it existing, it does leave open the possibility of misuse by an administrator, someone who is able to obtain administrative credentials, or someone who "hacks" the site to provide the information that would otherwise not be exposed.

I'm guessing that this is Kevin's concern.

[thehoodedcoder]

Ding Ding Ding.

Exactly.

Kevin

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by t206hound

I'd hazard to guess that there is not a separate version of software (code) for each client of SAS. It's a very high probability that there is just specific configuration for each client that controls the look/feel and feature set required by that client. In Leon's statement "the s/w has the ability to be programmed" more accurately should read "the s/w has the ability to be configured." There is a subtle, but important, distinction.

If that is the case, then the software (code) is the same regardless of the configuration. Therefore, there is deployed code that does allow for a user (administrator as it was mentioned) to see max bids. While configuration at the client level may not allow that feature to be utilized, it still exists. By virtue of it existing, it does leave open the possibility of misuse by an administrator, someone who is able to obtain administrative credentials, or someone who "hacks" the site to provide the information that would otherwise not be exposed.

I'm guessing that this is Kevin's concern.

The auction house administrators CAN NOT turn on and off the ability to see the max bids. Only one person in our in our entire company can do that and he is the other owner in the company.

In summary, Kevin has no knowledge of any inner workings of our software and any claims otherwise are lies and, no one except one of the owners in the company has the ability to turn on and off the ability in seeing the max bids.

[Peter_Spaeth]

But is it a fact that some auction houses ask to have the ability to see max bids?

[bobfreedman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But is it a fact that some auction houses ask to have the ability to see max bids?

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

Then nobody should have to stay up till all ungodly hours of the morning. Put it your max bid and go to bed!!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

This is great to hear. Thank you for posting.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

Awesome to hear that. I can't imagine any constructive reason to see max bids. It shouldn't even be an option. Thanks so much for making us feel safer about bidding.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

I think this is what everyone was looking for.

[Peter_Spaeth]

So shill bidding is now dead, except on ebay? This is great to hear. I also assume auction houses don't have people's IDs and passwords.

[calvindog]

Maybe you weren't listening, Peter. We've already received what everyone was looking for.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So shill bidding is now dead, except on ebay? This is great to hear. I also assume auction houses don't have people's IDs and passwords.

If it's like most other sites, the passwords are irreversibly hashed, which means they're encrypted with no way to unencrypt them.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by bobfreedman

No, it is not a fact, no one has ever asked us to see the max bids, all have asked not to see the max bids.

I personally find this very, very hard to believe.

Sean