Ok what do you think? This can't be a PSA 2!

glynparson · #1 06-22-2014, 09:31 AM

They are grading very strict on 8-10. Below that I feel they are fairly accurate on the 1-5 grades. It's the 6-7 that have a lot if gorgeous cards that one time would have been lock 8s.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-22-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

They are grading very strict on 8-10. Below that I feel they are fairly accurate on the 1-5 grades. It's the 6-7 that have a lot if gorgeous cards that one time would have been lock 8s.

Or at least a 7?

clydepepper · #3 06-22-2014, 12:39 PM

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or at least a 7?

56 Mantle PSA4.jpg
1956 Mantle PSA4 back.jpg

MattyC · #4 06-22-2014, 01:10 PM

That Mantle is outstanding! I don't know (and definitely wouldn't care!) if there is any issue in-hand that needs a loupe to see, which holds it back from a 7+. A stupendous buy for anything near average 6.5 money. Haven't looked at the 6s on VCP but I have to imagine that blows most if not all of them out of the water.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 06-22-2014, 01:13 PM

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That Mantle is outstanding! I don't know (and definitely wouldn't care!) if there is any issue in-hand that needs a loupe to see, which holds it back from a 7+. A stupendous buy for anything near average 6.5 money. Haven't looked at the 6s on VCP but I have to imagine that blows most if not all of them out of the water.

I never even bothered honestly, didn't much care either.

KCRfan1 · #6 06-22-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

They are grading very strict on 8-10.

I'm not sure I am buying in to that. I will give an example of a 1952 Topps card I have that is a 9 o/c, falls within the 9 guidelines on the front, and misses on the back. According to the PSA population report, there are only 2 of this card graded a 9 and both have qualifiers. Imagine my surprise when I randomly checked the population report, and now a straight 9 is graded. So, out of the blue a 1952 Topps card appears and grades a 9? My guess is an 8 was resubmitted and got a nice jump in grading. It pays to keep high volume submitters happy.

glynparson · #7 06-23-2014, 04:36 AM

A mint 9 on a 1952 Topps does not mean they are getting easier. Ever hear of the Rosen 1952 Topps find or the fact that unopened 1952 packs were not the toughest thing in the world in the late 80's thru mid 90's (not saying they were easy, but they existed)(Usually low or mid series). There are mint 1952 Topps out there that were never graded. Also one example really does not sway an argument that they are not being tougher. I have submitted about a thousand cards this year, how many have you? I also speak to many of the major dealers, I am friends with for over 25 years, and they echo my sentiments. You can believe what you want based on them grading one card a mint 9 but you would be wrong.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 06-23-2014, 05:47 AM

4 sharp has 62,000 psa 10s. Wonder what he thinks.

frankbmd · #9 06-23-2014, 05:57 AM

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4 sharp has 62,000 psa 10s. Wonder what he thinks.

He must be a frequent flyer in the ER with paper cuts.

KCRfan1 · #10 06-23-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glynparson

A mint 9 on a 1952 Topps does not mean they are getting easier. Ever hear of the Rosen 1952 Topps find or the fact that unopened 1952 packs were not the toughest thing in the world in the late 80's thru mid 90's (not saying they were easy, but they existed)(Usually low or mid series). There are mint 1952 Topps out there that were never graded. Also one example really does not sway an argument that they are not being tougher. I have submitted about a thousand cards this year, how many have you? I also speak to many of the major dealers, I am friends with for over 25 years, and they echo my sentiments. You can believe what you want based on them grading one card a mint 9 but you would be wrong.

Thanks for your insight Glyn. I have been involved in collecting for 35 years or so, and yes I have heard of the Rosen find. Most of us have I imagine. I'm not sure why how many cards I have submitted for grading has anything to do with why I think that PSA, from time to time, will give a bump on a card to a volume submitter. For the record I have not submitted any cards for grading, again, not that that really matters. ? Your background and expertise I'm sure is vast, and with the circle of friends you travel in, you and they certainly have your fingers on the pulse of the hobby / business much more than I do. I have enjoyed your comments on the board in the past, and will in the future as well.