Chances for Re-grading at SGC

RGold · #1 06-18-2014, 07:53 PM

It was not others saying, it was me. Those half grades did not exist before mid-2012.

The submission numbers are generated online or they are on the pre-printed submission forms. They might be used at a later date. SGC assigns old unused numbers to submissions for different reasons. That is why dating when cards were graded by using the cert numbers can be useful but not 100% accurate. It's a general rule, an indication, or estimate.

You should probably just forget any suggestions I made and just send whatever you were planning on sending. The only reason I responded was because you were getting inaccurate answers to your questions. Sorry I confused you.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 06-18-2014, 08:02 PM

Ron, I found your posts extremely confusing.

RGold · #3 06-18-2014, 08:08 PM

Shaddup.

steve B · #4 06-19-2014, 09:28 AM

My small experience in having them look at mid grade cards again was interesting.

I asked in person at a show about two cards I thought were better than the grade, both T206s, one a 40 the other a 50.

The 50 had a tiny flake of paperloss on the corner and on the front, less than what's missing on most corner wear. ----It also had a very tiny crease on the left edge that I hadn't seen. That was what put it in the 50 category rather than higher- like maybe a 70 or 80.

The 40 turned out to have an erased pencil mark on the back. One that I had never spotted in all the time I've owned it, 30 years +

Neither would have bumped on a paid review.

I can't say about the impression the standards are slipping. The standard says a tiny crease/wrinkle is ok up to 70, but I don't recall seeing one. And of all the cards I've had graded only two get a grade I thought was high. Oddly, they are a couple of the more expensive cards I've had done, one I personally think it's a full grade high, the other maybe a bit more.
The modern stuff I've graded with them didn't do well, but isn't worth redoing.

Steve B

glynparson · #5 06-19-2014, 09:56 AM

May be reviews. Also many dealers have stacks of the preprinted sgc forms. What Ron said is correct as he stated it as a guide not a rule.

GregMitch34 · #6 06-19-2014, 11:18 AM

Has anyone had the experience of getting a LOWER grade in SGC review? Do they change the flip automatically or contact you and ask if you want to un-submit? If, as they say, the grade is lower, do they really make up the difference in value, which could be hundreds or dollars on certain cards?

Again, we're talking about reviews here, not crossovers.

ullmandds · #7 06-19-2014, 11:47 AM

i cracked out an sgc graded card...re-submitted it only to have it returned to me with a lower grade...I was not happy...killed $500 in value.

irishdenny · #8 06-20-2014, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Has anyone had the experience of getting a LOWER grade in SGC review? Do they change the flip automatically or contact you and ask if you want to un-submit? If, as they say, the grade is lower, do they really make up the difference in value, which could be hundreds or dollars on certain cards?

Again, we're talking about reviews here, not crossovers.

My Experience was with an SGC60/5 T200 NY Nat'l for a review. I Believed the card was over graded! I sent it in and it came back in an SGC40/3 Holder, along with a check for $1100. During the Process, the Head Grader called me and we discussed the situation. I don't recall who I actually spoke with(it was one of 2 gentleman, but at the time he was the Head Grader!) The $1100 was for the difference in Market value at the time.

Greg, I think I know what your aiming at here. If the Card or cards in question are in older flips(Gold label), SGC likes to clean up their older Slabs and put the Cards into their Rightful Holders. I agree with them! Thus, I had No problem with my Card being reslabed into a Lower Rightful Graded Holder. And I do believe that they won't return it if it needs to be reslabed into a Lower Grade... However, I do believe that SGC will Compensate You for your market loss!

I would call them and discuss your situation with them... Can't hurt!

MikeU · #9 06-20-2014, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Has anyone had the experience of getting a LOWER grade in SGC review? Do they change the flip automatically or contact you and ask if you want to un-submit? If, as they say, the grade is lower, do they really make up the difference in value, which could be hundreds or dollars on certain cards?

Again, we're talking about reviews here, not crossovers.

Yes. Have sent old flip slabs in for re-slabbing (OCD issues) at different times. On two difference occasions, a single card came back re-slabbed with a lower grade and a very fair grading coupon enclosed. The re-slabbed grade was more accurate. I have no issue with this and actually respect this much more than the I will never reduce your grade even when it deserves it policy i.e. wink, wink.

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