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Old 06-18-2014, 05:16 PM
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Read again. I give up. Good luck with your reviews.


"It is not an exact science because an older form may be used by a submitter who sends the cards in for grading well after the submission number has been generated."
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My point is that the "low" flip serial numbers don't seem to line up with others saying there were no 2.5s, 3.5s, 4.5s before 2012....
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:53 PM
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It was not others saying, it was me. Those half grades did not exist before mid-2012.

The submission numbers are generated online or they are on the pre-printed submission forms. They might be used at a later date. SGC assigns old unused numbers to submissions for different reasons. That is why dating when cards were graded by using the cert numbers can be useful but not 100% accurate. It's a general rule, an indication, or estimate.

You should probably just forget any suggestions I made and just send whatever you were planning on sending. The only reason I responded was because you were getting inaccurate answers to your questions. Sorry I confused you.
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Ron, I found your posts extremely confusing.
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My small experience in having them look at mid grade cards again was interesting.

I asked in person at a show about two cards I thought were better than the grade, both T206s, one a 40 the other a 50.

The 50 had a tiny flake of paperloss on the corner and on the front, less than what's missing on most corner wear. ----It also had a very tiny crease on the left edge that I hadn't seen. That was what put it in the 50 category rather than higher- like maybe a 70 or 80.

The 40 turned out to have an erased pencil mark on the back. One that I had never spotted in all the time I've owned it, 30 years +

Neither would have bumped on a paid review.

I can't say about the impression the standards are slipping. The standard says a tiny crease/wrinkle is ok up to 70, but I don't recall seeing one. And of all the cards I've had graded only two get a grade I thought was high. Oddly, they are a couple of the more expensive cards I've had done, one I personally think it's a full grade high, the other maybe a bit more.
The modern stuff I've graded with them didn't do well, but isn't worth redoing.

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May be reviews. Also many dealers have stacks of the preprinted sgc forms. What Ron said is correct as he stated it as a guide not a rule.
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