Chances for Re-grading at SGC

[smtjoy]

I would say 1 in 5 is about what i have seen with mid to lower grade having a better chance than higher grade for a bump. Remember you are basically asking the same grader if they made a mistake so not likely or they would not be doing their job. If I feel real strong on a card I also do as Ron suggested I crack and submit but I am amazed how many times they come back the same grade.

Good luck

[GregMitch34]

Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?

Hi Greg,

I believe they reserve the right to do this...but if they do, they are effectively saying "we made a mistake that has cost you money" - ie. the "guarantee"...my understanding is that on any downgrade from one of their own holders, they either pay you the difference between the grades in cash, or offer you grading services of equal value, if you use grading services enough to make that worthwhile.

(BTW, I personally have never submitted for review at either SGC or PSA, but I have many cards that I bought before the latest half-grade scales that are definitely high-end for the grade. Sometime when I get the initiative, I'll submit a batch seeking at least 1/2 grade bumps. As others have said, these should be easier to get that a review of a recently-graded card, since the grader is not admitting a mistake...just using a more detailed grading scale now.)


Cheers,
Blair

[GregMitch34]

Hasn't SGC had the half-grade for quite some time? Or just at certain levels? For example when did it introduce SGC 45 and SGC 55?

[robw1959]

Those are the brand new ones, along with SGC 35 (2.5); the older half grade as I recall is the SGC 82 (6.5). I remember sending three T206 commons (each one graded SGC 80) in for review about a year ago. Only one of them got the half-point bump up while the other two stayed the same.

[GregMitch34]

they must have 4.5s some time back as I have a couple cards I got a year or so ago that are 4.5s....what about 3.5s? do they also go back a year or more?

[RGold]

Effective sometime mid-2012. My point was that prior to this, half grades 70, 86 and 92 already existed so to receive a bump on review on SGC 60, 84 or 88 would mean SGC recognizing a mistake which would be rare.

Receiving a bump on review for lower graded cards would be more likely given that they may have been graded before half grades existed at those levels. You can estimate when SGC cards were graded because the cert numbers are chronological not random like PSA.

NEW SGC HALF GRADES

Effective immediately, four new half grades will be available as part of the grading scale. The new grades are as follows:
SGC 35 — 2.5 GOOD+
SGC 45 — 3.5 VG+
SGC 55 — 4.5 VG/EX+
SGC 82 — 6.5 EX/NM+
For years, collectors have been asking for more options at the lower end of the scale where condition can vary greatly. These new half grades will serve to reward cards that are high-end for their grade with special attention paid to eye appeal. All cards submitted for grading will be eligible for half grades—there is no special process. Cards that are already graded by SGC may be submitted for review under any of the applicable grading fee tiers.
These grades are being added to round out the options available when it comes to assessing trading cards. They are not being added to complicate things for collectors. As such, the labels will remain the same so that consistency within a collection can be maintained and the 100 point scale will be preserved to avoid difficulties with the registry, the population reports, and other established areas.
Please feel free to call or e-mail us with any questions.

[clydepepper]

I sent what I thought was a sure 6 or 7 '56 Mantle and will be receiving a 4 in the mail...a pricey 4 at that...think I will just buy already graded cards from now on.

Back to the subject at hand, this does, at least, show that PSA standards remain high- no downslide trajectory as with SGC.

But it still hurts

[MikeU]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I sent what I thought was a sure 6 or 7 '56 Mantle and will be receiving a 4 in the mail...a pricey 4 at that...think I will just buy already graded cards from now on.

Back to the subject at hand, this does, at least, show that PSA standards remain high- no downslide trajectory as with SGC.

But it still hurts

If the grade does not fit, you must re-submit.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by MikeU

If the grade does not fit, you must re-submit.

nice!

[nolemmings]

Back to the subject at hand, this does, at least, show that PSA standards remain high- no downslide trajectory as with SGC.

I wasn't aware SGC grading standards had changed, much less that they were on a "downslide trajectory". I'll resist the temptation to go into the "PSA standards remain high" portion of your statement.