When an Ebay seller backs out...

[UnVme7]

Well guys, the seller refunded my money again. He said that someone sent him a message about this website and this thread.

So it got me thinking-- I never mentioned on here what item it was, nor my ebay username. So how would someone know, right?

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....I wonder who it could've been....

That person, who obviously is a net54ember, contacted this seller and told him that he should get more for the item and sent him this forum page.

Talk about being bitter because you didn't get the item and decided to jump in the middle and tell the seller the price was too low of a price. Sorry, but that's a real douchebag right there.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by UnVme7

Well guys, the seller refunded my money again. He said that someone sent him a message about this website and this thread.

So it got me thinking-- I never mentioned on here what item it was, nor my ebay username. So how would someone know, right? And there's only one person that follows me on eBay.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....I wonder who it could've been....

That person, who obviously is a net54ember, contacted this seller and told him that he should get more for the item and sent him this forum page.

Talk about being bitter because you didn't get the item and decided to jump in the middle and tell the seller the price was too low of a price. Sorry, but that's a real douchebag right there.

FWIW, you don't have to "follow" someone on eBay to look at what they have bought. You do have to know their eBay ID, but that could be anybody you have ever dealt with on eBay before if they have a good memory and/or save their e-mails, not necessarily the 1 guy who officially "follows" you on eBay. Either way though, I agree that it's a pretty douchey thing to do.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what item we're talking about here or what Nate's eBay ID is. (I also have a terrible memory, so unless we do business on a weekly basis, your secret is probably safe even if we've transacted before).

[bobbyw8469]

I have no idea what the item is either. I still want to know what Ebay seller is selling $1000+ items for pennies on the dollar!! I have a huge student loan I need to pay off, and that would help greatly!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I have no idea what the item is either. I still want to know what Ebay seller is selling $1000+ items for pennies on the dollar!! I have a huge student loan I need to pay off, and that would help greatly!

There are still deals out there. Mostly in mislisted items, or things where there's a common item and a tougher one with a small difference between them.

Last year or earlier this year I picked up a stamp that catalogs 2500 for 18 as a BIN
18 was a good price for the basic stamp, and the difference while catalog listed isn't shown in a picture. So knowing you have it isn't exactly simple.
Sort of like finding a Murr'y as a BIN at a decent price for a common.
Another was listed by a seller in Norway and ended at 8am est easter sunday. Not a common one, and listed at just under 10% of the catalog value. I was the only bidder.

With stamps some of the varieties are not well known and many sellers won't take the time to become knowledgeable about them- Even some of the bigger dealers. Although one I met said he didn't have the time to be bothered with small varieties that catalog under 1000 unless it was plainly marked in the collection it came from. (He often has stuff that's 5000+)

Steve B

[drcy]

2 things. If you sue in a dispute where something is physically stolen (not the case here) you only get what you paid for the item, and not what it would be worth now, what is its market value or what you would have gotten if you resold. The judge would look only at your receipt from when you bought it and have no interest in theoretical market valuations or how much (according to the plaintiff) it's gone up in value since then.

2, you're out no money. Considering the first paragraph, you'd have to convince the judge that you've been harmed. He (or she) may very well say you get the item in exchange for the price paid if you want because the sale was a contract, but he may, having little to no interest in theoretical resale speculations and market valuations, say you're out no money so he doesn't see the harm. You'd have to convince him. Realize that most people come before the judge in such suits are suing because they paid money, didn't get the item and want their money back. You'd be coming before him with having gotten your money back. You may indeed get the item (in re-exchange for the win price), but, if you didn't, you would not win any of paragraph 1's pie in the sky money.

[Peter_Spaeth]

When a good is unique specific performance may be available. I agree a court would not likely award damages on an expectancy measure here.

[thecatspajamas]

If the reneged item was subsequently sold to another party, or through another venue such as a major auction house, would that not give a clear measure of the damages to the shafted buyer?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by UnVme7

Well guys, the seller refunded my money again. He said that someone sent him a message about this website and this thread.

So it got me thinking-- I never mentioned on here what item it was, nor my ebay username. So how would someone know, right?

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....I wonder who it could've been....

That person, who obviously is a net54ember, contacted this seller and told him that he should get more for the item and sent him this forum page.

Talk about being bitter because you didn't get the item and decided to jump in the middle and tell the seller the price was too low of a price. Sorry, but that's a real douchebag right there.

Sorry to hear that. The really sad part is the douchebag probably did it to buy the card out from under you. I had a fellow member do the same thing to me before.

[UnVme7]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Sorry to hear that. The really sad part is the douchebag probably did it to buy the card out from under you. I had a fellow member do the same thing to me before.

It wasn't a card, which proves my point to the douche that did it. He knows who he is.

[Runscott]

Last year I sold some fairly expensive cards to an ebayer who turned out to be a forum member. My ebay store basically mirrors my web-store, except items are, on average, 10-15% higher on ebay due to the additional costs. This isn't always the case, but it is on average.

Here's the unanticipated result: a forum member contacted the buyer and told him that he could have gotten them cheaper in my store, so the buyer then contacted me and wanted reparation.

I'm always amazed at the creative ways that forum members can find to stir up shit between other members. Fortunately it's only a few - there are thousands of members here and while we hear about every single douchebag, we only hear about a small percentage of what the other guys are doing in positive ways for the hobby.

So, Nate - forget about the guy keep having fun.

[Republicaninmass]

FUNNY!!! Mine was a board member as well... But I found out who it was. Actually he admitted it

[pbspelly]

This is a strange place.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Lot of things just don't make sense in this thread

• Bought an item for only a few hundred, but worth thousands
• Somehow a board member knows your eBay username and exactly what you bought
• You won't out the eBay seller

Sorry, but things just aren't adding up.

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Lot of things just don't make sense in this thread

• Bought an item for only a few hundred, but worth thousands
• Somehow a board member knows you're eBay username and exactly what you bought
• You won't out the eBay seller

Sorry, but things just aren't adding up.

See post directly above yours

This is a strange place.

[Jewish-collector]

What becomes an interesting long discussion thread is when (not necessarily this case) a buyer comes on Net54 to complain about a seller and the seller is actually also a Net54 member, who responds here on the forum.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Lot of things just don't make sense in this thread

• Bought an item for only a few hundred, but worth thousands
• Somehow a board member knows your eBay username and exactly what you bought
• You won't out the eBay seller

Sorry, but things just aren't adding up.

Suppose his ebay ID is the same as his ID here? This isn't rocket science. It appears the item in question was relisted at 4x the purchase price.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Suppose his ebay ID is the same as his ID here? It appears the item in question was relisted at 4x the purchase price.

Makes sense, but how would anyone know exactly what he bought?

[UnVme7]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Suppose his ebay ID is the same as his ID here?

Yes it is, but I never mentioned what the item was. The person who reached out to the seller either took the time to look up my eBay username, or just checked the completed listings to find the item, which I think was the case because it popped up on the completed listing list around the same time the schmuck contacted the seller. Hmmm....

Anyways, I'm not getting the item thanks to this schmuck who was upset they didnt get the item for themselves and decided to contact the seller. It is what it is.

He knows who he is....