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Old 06-06-2014, 10:59 AM
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While I cannot comment too much on the California situation, I assume it is the same as what exists here in Arizona, where we have been receiving busloads of immigrants, in all likelihood here illegally, from Texas, where they are essentially released with the papers commanding them to appear for their deportation or related hearings when appropriate. Our dim-witted governor of course wasted no time to whine to President Obama for relief; happily, however, the transported aliens have been treated well by volunteers who have taken them in and provided them with at least the bare essentials.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/25...en-their-homes

These people do not represent a new surge of an invading Mexican horde–they are Central American citizens from countries other than Mexico who have been around and were rounded up as part of an overall increase in immigration enforcement–IOW, the government is doing the very thing the right wingers claim they ignore. This of course is not apparent from the Breitbart blurb, as that “source” is hardly renown for its objectivity and thoroughness.

Anyway, the problem arises because the Mexican government is not obliged to accept foreigners; i.e., non-Mexicans, into their country, and in fact has declined to accept these folks, who again come from other countries. At least that is what has been reported here--they cannot simply be pushed back into Mexico. This is a matter of international law and sovereignty, not a fault of the US Border Patrol. At most it is an issue of immigration law and reform. As for that issue, I leave it to anyone capable of reading to determine who it is that has obstructed and foot-dragged on getting something meaningful done. I would point out that here in Arizona, there is a bi-partisan push to move forward:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...m-way/2140538/


I also see that the LA Time reports “President Obama will not make changes to the nation's deportation system for at least two months in order to give House Republican leaders more time to search for votes for an overhaul of immigration laws, administration officials said Wednesday....An immigration bill, a top domestic priority for the president, has been stuck in the Republican-led House since last year. The Senate passed a bipartisan bill last summer that Obama said met his requirements for reform.”

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...528-story.html
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No immigration reform for awhile.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/0...rm-107697.html

Of course and without question, it's all Obama's fault.
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It's interesting to consider that Tea Party voters prevented immigration reform in America..
Interesting why? Most Tea Party members don't want amnesty for the millions of illegal immigrants.
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Interesting maybe, surprising, not at all. Cantor was one of the more conservative House members, and Obama pretty much hates him. Yet he was one of the few with marshalling skills to help get something through on immigration, even if it was a long shot. So what happens?-- Republicans continue to eat their own, and redefine RINO once again, as Cantor not only loses, but to someone whose main message was that Cantor was too weak on immigration. You see, Jason, immigration reform means build the damn fence and step up the pace on shipping people out. Seriously, look at the tea party position on the subject. Anything less is anti-american, unconstitutional, illegal and violates every principle of the rugged individuals who made this country great (insert pic of Marlboro man here).
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You see, Jason, immigration reform means build the damn fence and step up the pace on shipping people out.
Amen, brother!

Edited to add the lefts position on immigration: A pathway to amnetsy so they can get more votes.

Or, hey Todd, maybe Obama could trade 5 Mexican drug lords for every 1 illegal immigrant? How about that?

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