Real / Fake 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams

[autograf]

Looks legit....if someone was going to fake it, they would probably have a centered back.....

[FrankWilsonWilliams]

Yeah, but a faker might uncenter it just to give it the authentic look. Thank you for your advice! Going to buy it tomorrow!

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by FrankWilsonWilliams

Yeah, but a faker might uncenter it just to give it the authentic look. Thank you for your advice! Going to buy it tomorrow!

You should NEVER pay $4k for that card even if it is authentic. I am not sure who gave you this advice, you would need to hit a 4.5~ area grade to command that sort of price and this is miscut (if authentic, I am still unsure).

[FrankWilsonWilliams]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

You should NEVER pay $4k for that card even if it is authentic. I am not sure who gave you this advice, you would need to hit a 4.5~ area grade to command that sort of price and this is miscut (if authentic, I am still unsure).

You don't think PSA would grade this atleast a 5 (MC)

[cparker94]

I never buy expensive ungraded cards. Why? Because there is usually a reason why the expensive card hasn't been graded. Some of the time, a seller will send a card to be graded and it will come back as authentic. When I see "authentic" as a grade I immediately think the card has been altered or trimmed in some way. Maybe that's what could have happened with this card and the seller decided to crack the holder and try to sell as a raw card. If I were you and shelling out that kind of money, I would protect myself by explaining to the buyer that you plan on having the card graded and if it comes back as a fake or other undesirable grade like authentic, then you would need a refund.

I recently bought a 1962 Topps Lou Brock RC and the card looked to be mint except for the fact that it is obviously shorter than my other 1962 cards. I hate it when people trim cards and say they are mint. Happens too much these days.

Just my two cents...

Craig from Texas

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by cparker94

I never buy expensive ungraded cards. Why? Because there is usually a reason why the expensive card hasn't been graded. Some of the time, a seller will send a card to be graded and it will come back as authentic. When I see "authentic" as a grade I immediately think the card has been altered or trimmed in some way. Maybe that's what could have happened with this card and the seller decided to crack the holder and try to sell as a raw card. If I were you and shelling out that kind of money, I would protect myself by explaining to the buyer that you plan on having the card graded and if it comes back as a fake or other undesirable grade like authentic, then you would need a refund.

I recently bought a 1962 Topps Lou Brock RC and the card looked to be mint except for the fact that it is obviously shorter than my other 1962 cards. I hate it when people trim cards and say they are mint. Happens too much these days.

Just my two cents...

Craig from Texas

What he said! Is it not worth the seller even spending $110 to get a PSA Membership and getting this graded? Or find someone who would for a $20 spot. If you want to take the risk, so be it, then you've got bigger cojones then me.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by cparker94

I never buy expensive ungraded cards. Why? Because there is usually a reason why the expensive card hasn't been graded. Some of the time, a seller will send a card to be graded and it will come back as authentic. When I see "authentic" as a grade I immediately think the card has been altered or trimmed in some way. Maybe that's what could have happened with this card and the seller decided to crack the holder and try to sell as a raw card. If I were you and shelling out that kind of money, I would protect myself by explaining to the buyer that you plan on having the card graded and if it comes back as a fake or other undesirable grade like authentic, then you would need a refund.

I recently bought a 1962 Topps Lou Brock RC and the card looked to be mint except for the fact that it is obviously shorter than my other 1962 cards. I hate it when people trim cards and say they are mint. Happens too much these days.

Just my two cents...

Craig from Texas

I disagree. Card should not be purchased in the first place. There is likely a reason it is not graded, plus the price is incredibly high to begin with (in terms of condition, even if it is authentic). By the time you get it back and find out the bad news good luck getting money back...

You really should stay away from this card...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Even if real, too expensive for a miscut.

[cparker94]

I do agree with Sean. As long as you are protected by your credit card company and there is no risk to you, I would proceed with caution. However, if you are protected, keep in mind that your money could be tied up for a long period of time during the refund process. Do you know the seller? Check into his feedback. Request his phone number. Call him. You will have a better feel for transaction after talking to him.

Craig from Texas

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I disagree. Card should not be purchased in the first place. There is likely a reason it is not graded, plus the price is incredibly high to begin with (in terms of condition, even if it is authentic). By the time you get it back and find out the bad news good luck getting money back...

You really should stay away from this card...