Mystery quiz: help ID somebody else's old baseball pics

[Dto7]

Originally Posted by Butch7999

Don and Lance, thanks very much! Excellent information.

Still looking for player / team / year / ballpark IDs on the first two pics, though -- the LoC listings provide no details (that we see) beyond "1913-1917."
We're thinking the guy in the first pic is wearing an A's sweater...

For the third, then, it's Joe Birmingham, Cleveland, 1913, at Griffith Stadium.
For the fourth, Red McKee, Detroit, 1913, at Griffith Stadium -- could that be Rip Williams catching?
There's no resemblance to Henry, Ainsmith, or Ryan, the only other guys behind the plate that year for Washington.

Lance, we added a follow-up post in the thread at the eBay forum, asking the vendor for clarification on the source of the photos.

The first 2 photos are Washington Senators at University of Virginia at Charlottesville, Virginia for Spring training, don't know the players names.
Right on with photo 3 and four but don't know who the catcher is in photo four.

[Dto7]

If the first 2 photos are from 1913 then here's a list of players that were to be at Spring training for Washington in 1913. from a newspaper dated 2-23-1913. So the 2 players could be from this list.

[Butch7999]

Don, superb work, thanks again! -- and sorry, we could've saved you some time and trouble if we ourselves had just
dug a little deeper at the LoC site and seen the additional views there of the UV field and Senator sweaters.

It'll take a bit more work to photo-match the first two guys, but that list is a huge help, and we're so close to having
every last bit of information on these pics we'll take a stab at it later on...

[Dto7]

Originally Posted by Butch7999

Don, superb work, thanks again! -- and sorry, we could've saved you some time and trouble if we ourselves had just
dug a little deeper at the LoC site and seen the additional views there of the UV field and Senator sweaters.

It'll take a bit more work to photo-match the first two guys, but that list is a huge help, and we're so close to having
every last bit of information on these pics we'll take a stab at it later on...

You're welcome Butch and good luck.

Thought I would pass this along to you for future reference. Spring training sites since 1901 for the American and National League teams. Also at the bottom of the page are the training sites for the Federal League.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/team...sites-al.shtml

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/team...sites-nl.shtml

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by Dto7

If the first 2 photos are from 1913 then here's a list of players that were to be at Spring training for Washington in 1913. from a newspaper dated 2-23-1913. So the 2 players could be from this list.

Only six of the 39 players were married. I wonder if that was typical for professional baseball teams of that era...

[Dto7]

First photo is of catcher Julius "Dutch" Munch

[Butch7999]

More great work, Don -- thanks! There's no mistaking that schnozz.

By the way, Lance, odd timing regarding the eBay Sports Cards & Memorabilia board -- as of this week, eBay is restructuring all their forums,
eliminating a huge number of them and putting the rest into gigantic catch-all categories. So now, if you want to ask for or provide information
on something like this, or cards, or a game-used catcher's mask, you'll have to dig through a thousand posts on English bone china,
comic books, and Moppet paintings.
Also, those forums, long all but unmoderated and very well self-policed by the regulars there, are now subject to draconian "editing" (butchery)
by non-English-speaking eBay moderators. Our own comments (critical but polite, and but a handful among thousands critical of the new policy)
have been "disappeared." It's a shame, as the Sports Cards board was a terrific venue (we're not the only Net54 members who are/were regulars there).

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Butch7999

By the way, Lance, odd timing regarding the eBay Sports Cards & Memorabilia board -- as of this week, eBay is restructuring all their forums,
eliminating a huge number of them and putting the rest into gigantic catch-all categories. So now, if you want to ask for or provide information
on something like this, or cards, or a game-used catcher's mask, you'll have to dig through a thousand posts on English bone china,
comic books, and Moppet paintings.
Also, those forums, long all but unmoderated and very well self-policed by the regulars there, are now subject to draconian "editing" (butchery)
by non-English-speaking eBay moderators. Our own comments (critical but polite, and but a handful among thousands critical of the new policy)
have been "disappeared." It's a shame, as the Sports Cards board was a terrific venue (we're not the only Net54 members who are/were regulars there).

Ugh. There went that. I'm probably for the better not having another forum to frequent obsessively though

[Dto7]

I also found this interesting of the 1913 Washington team. The players measurements for uniforms and caps .