SGC Response concerning new labels

[Blackie]

Tried to do a poll Bill but I think I jacked it up........

[oldjudge]

What does Sean do at SGC? I didn't realize he was there.

[Harliduck]

I will add that if they did do a green border, it is immensely better. I do appreciate the response and its classy the concerns were not ignored...but as others have said, it's still really ugly. Again, the only reason for me is uniformity, so I am out. Green border, I'd be back in. There prerogative to change, mine not to support the change.

[Stonepony]

Despite the new flips, I suppose cards will still float around in their holders

[abothebear]

They should find a way to put the label info on the side, like how some coins have text on their edge, and then the slabs could be near to card size with no black or cloudy clear field surrounding it. Then they could change the label design all they want and it wouldn't matter because no one would be seeing it anyway.

Glad I could jump on the site today and solve all the problems. You are welcome, card collecting world. You are welcome.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

What does Sean do at SGC? I didn't realize he was there.

VP of Operations.....I believe he had taken a hiatus from the company but returned several months ago.

[BlueSky]

Just curious what did they use the bar code for in the old label?

[sreader3]

I am not an SGC rah-rah guy but do have a couple dozen slabbed SGC cards.

The old SGC labels are aesthetically nicer in my opinion. And, if the move to the new labels is a done deal (as it seems to be), SGC should at least add the green border.

My wife and I have a fanciful German name for what SGC has done here:

WURSENCHANGE (add the double dots over the u).

The new SGC slabs are in the grand tradition of New Coke and Windows 8--they took a good thing and made it worse.

People are often hired and paid to "do something." Unfortunately, often times, they make it worse. That seems to be the case here.

Again, in my opinion.

[Joe_G.]

Put me down as strongly disappointed in the new label. I've been a proponent of SGC from the early years (over a decade) and have been fine with all the small changes over time but feel this is a mistake. Consistent and fair grading aside, the slab appearance is what really sets SGC apart with the green border label and black insert/gasket being key. I'm fine with the changes if the green border returns, large enough at top to pull "SGC" into the border in white. I don't see why this couldn't be accomplished without compromising all other new desired features.

The old SGC slab was classy and I was compelled to grade my cards with SGC. My collection has a nice and consistent look to it. I guess that is about to change. I don't believe I will submit with the new label. I'm fine with raw cards, why spend the money if you don't like the appearance? My hope is that SGC listens to their customers and reconsiders this decision. I may change my mind with time, then again, maybe not.

I'm not as passionate about coins, but have actually collected them longer than I have cards. I have collected only NGC graded coins and when their holder changed several years back I stopped submitting. The plastic insert that holds the coin being the issue, not the label. I won't buy a newer NGC graded coin. The last couple coins I need will be purchased when an example surfaces in the older holder. Anyone have an 1887 3 cent or quarter in older NGC holder? I have the coins raw, but would like to complete the type set in old NGC holders. Example of new holder attached for comparison, I didn't like it when it was introduced and time hasn't changed my mind.

Why change when your customer base is a bunch of old curmudgeoned fanatics? A change for the worse isn't welcome (over generalization but you get the point).

[Joe_G.]

Building off of Bill's example, here is my recommendation.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Building off of Bill's example, here is my recommendation.

For me personally that is the best looking flip I have ever seen.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by Leon

For me personally that is the best looking flip I have ever seen.

+1... Talking about the one a couple of posts above; not the actual new one that is objectively not very good.

[MVSNYC]

Leon- agreed that the above example looks much better than the non-border version. when tweaking a design, you want to hold onto once's roots and evolve it every so slightly...like how Porsche tweaks the Carrera every year.

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Building off of Bill's example, here is my recommendation.

That looks awesome!

[brewing]

SGC,

Some simple business theories you my be interested in.

Test market or test group - before releasing a product, see how the product is received by a small group of consumers. Example: movie studios reshoot endings to movies based on what a test group says.

Market opportunity - when the market leader is generating revenue from a service (PSA Registry) that they do better, copy them with a better product or service. Example: Dodge was the first to produce a mini van.

[yanksfan09]

I'd defintitely vote for that tweaked version from Joe G.! Best option so far, hands down!

[toledo_mudhen]

Originally Posted by Joe_G.

Building off of Bill's example, here is my recommendation.

WOW! Super Nice - But I do think the Ryan is a tad overgraded....Looks more like a 70 to me

[auggiedoggy]

Joe,

I'd like to see your proposal implemented. Nice label!